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Old 08-02-2012, 01:08 PM   #1
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UltimateBeat - UB documentary Released 10/22!

Here is a teaser of UltimateBeat - too much to lose, a documentary in production about the insider fraud at UltimateBet. The project got off the ground in February and we have acquired gear and shot some good footage (click the graphics). I'm really excited and grateful for the folks who have agreed to participate so far and we still have some strong shoots left to do.


If you have an interesting story, anecdote or experience to tell about being cheated, any of the UB folks or the refund/PR effort, please visit our website and use the contact form or send an email to doubleheadpics@gmail.com


We also need a relatively small amount of funds to complete the project and have set up a Kickstarter page that will run for the next 30 days. Crowdfunding the balance of the project is cool because the investigations were primarily a crowdsourcing effort.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:10 PM   #2
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No soliciting sir.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:10 PM   #3
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looks great!
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:13 PM   #4
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No soliciting sir.
Eh, there's a lot of 2+2'ers in the video - including Mason.

For the lazy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRDEjnCXC4
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:15 PM   #5
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No soliciting sir.
Sometimes you just have to let it go. EG has done a ton of excellent work for 2p2'rs and many members want to see this done.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:27 PM   #6
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Man this looks so fantastic i just cant wait seems like incredible well done job at least from the teaser!
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:27 PM   #7
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Thanks for doing this
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:29 PM   #8
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re: UltimateBeat - UB documentary Released 10/22!

I love what you are doing and I have always followed your posts and research.

I think the video needs to be more clear right form the start as to what went on. My guess is that this piece is not clear enough for those not familiar with the scandal. I think you could consider starting the video out with some more obvious statements.

You need to start with something that catches the viewer's attention immediately. You don't want people closing it after the first 20 seconds. See a 48 hours opening as an example. There is so much intrigue with all of this and I think you should use that.

The clip is ok for those in the know, but I assume that you would like a broader audience to watch the video.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:38 PM   #9
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Awesome, well done!

Good luck,
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:43 PM   #10
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Eh, there's a lot of 2+2'ers in the video - including Mason.

For the lazy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rRDEjnCXC4
Looks interesting.

Didn't know PH was implicated.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:46 PM   #11
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re: UltimateBeat - UB documentary Released 10/22!

So looking forward to this documentary.

I must say it's kinduv funny seeing Brad Booth to start the trailer as he's been on both sides of the fence: scammed and now scammer. I often wonder if getting cheated at UB was the catalyst for the road he's gone down. Really seems to have messed with him. I hope he can repay what he owes and get back on his feet. Everybody loves a good redemption story.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #12
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Is it just me, or does a having a guy with a British accent somehow lend extra credibility to any documentary?
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:00 PM   #13
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:19 PM   #14
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re: UltimateBeat - UB documentary Released 10/22!

Didn't 60 minutes already do this awhile back?

Semi-kidding... good luck sir. It sucks for the people that got screwed.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:31 PM   #15
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Well done, looking forward to watching this.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #16
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:40 PM   #17
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Is it just me, or does a having a guy with a British accent somehow lend extra credibility to any documentary?
You mean Michael Josem? I believe he's from Australia and that's actually australian accent.
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:48 PM   #18
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looks great!
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Old 08-02-2012, 02:54 PM   #19
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Hopefully it doesnt take 5 years to come out like the poker boom documentary we've all been waiting for.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:00 PM   #20
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re: UltimateBeat - UB documentary Released 10/22!

Looking forward to this too but not sure that the timing of this post was thought out very well.......

On the weekend opening of Batman 3, would you release the teaser to the making of Batman 1?
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:06 PM   #21
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Very nice!

Josem ftw.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:43 PM   #22
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No soliciting sir.
Please let the Mods decide what should and shouldn't be allowed. (should I have let a Mod say that?)


In this case, this seems like a worthwhile reason to bend the rules.

Hey, maybe Russ Hamilton has a few extra bucks he'd like to throw in......
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:47 PM   #23
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I think the video needs to be more clear right form the start as to what went on... The clip is ok for those in the know, but I assume that you would like a broader audience to watch the video.
I wrestle with this a lot. I believe this could appeal to a wider audience but then we probably should have tried to find traditional funding at a higher level and focused on traditional distribution, etc. Instead, we decided to take a guerillla approach and focus on making a piece for the poker world so the BS narrative is not allowed to stand.

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Didn't know PH was implicated.
People forget that Phil was acting as an informal liason to the community when the investigation first began, and during that phase the company kept altering their position based on forum discovery. He actually relayed early on that they thought the problem was very minor and only a few screennames. That should have been a huge wakeup call to Hellmuth that the company wasn't gonna play it straight. It wasn't like there weren't plenty of folks talking about not being able to get HHs or public audits or other things he could have pushed for with his very high profile. Instead, he passed it off to Leggett and went to play golf, or hang with Gretzky or whatever it is he does.

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I must say it's kinduv funny seeing Brad Booth to start the trailer as he's been on both sides of the fence: scammed and now scammer.
Yeah, it is a touchy situation. I have had to reevaluate how much of his stuff to include due to this. His personal issues don't negate what happened to him at UB and were likely magnified because of it. I am totally grateful he hooked me up with folks to fund the first phase of the project though I don't believe any of them played much online or lost much to UB.

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Is it just me, or does a having a guy with a British accent somehow lend extra credibility to any documentary?
I wanted him to hold a Meerschaum but he declined. Also, Aussie not Brit.

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Didn't 60 minutes already do this awhile back?
Kind of sad they were unable to drill down or provide enough juice to cause a deeper investigation. They obv hit the major points, but its the nuance and details that make this case truly interesting. Also, not much creedence was given to the cover-up theories in 2008/2009.

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Hopefully it doesnt take 5 years to come out like the poker boom documentary we've all been waiting for.
Best to let the chefs do their thing. I'm also eagerly looking forward to their work. Almost equal to waiting for each episode of Breaking Bad...

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Looking forward to this too but not sure that the timing of this post was thought out very well.......
I mean, FTP is such a big deal and obv a great resolution appears ahead. That said, this is primarily to alert folks and find some assistance to get the rest of our shots. The film won't be cut together for several months. Is five years too long to tell an interesting crime story? I don't know. I just couldn't walk away without telling it.

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Old 08-02-2012, 03:50 PM   #24
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Best of luck with this ElevenGrover, your hard work deserves to pay off and these people need to be punished.
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Old 08-02-2012, 03:53 PM   #25
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Well done sir, GL!
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