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Two Qc show up on the flop in 250k Super High Roller Cash Game Two Qc show up on the flop in 250k Super High Roller Cash Game

07-02-2015 , 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by theskillzdatklls
has to be a bad printed deck right? people are stupid but rigging this kind of deck seems beyond the scope of insanity.
They can definitely come directly from the manufacturer messed up.
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07-02-2015 , 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
after watching video again I'm left sorta wondering how it was that 6 SHR regs, two in the hand sat there and not a single one of them noticed. Maybe one of them did notice and decided to freeroll the entire hand and see what developed ?

Pro Tip to SHR Regs Who Did Not Notice: Be more present. I read a book titled "Play Poker Like the Pros", somewhere in there it said it was important to pay attention to hands even when not in them cant rem authors name.
It's actually a lot easier than you think. Our brains omit so many tiny things like that, especially when it's something you've done a million times over. Factor in long sessions, etc, I can see how it would be overlooked.

One of my first times playing live for actual money, it was a 12 person $50 sit n go. Three handed I got it all in with QQ, and my friend goes 'Boom, aces!' He slammed down two aces. I was like **** my life, and everyone was laughing. I didn't get it, and I looked down.. they were two jumbo sized cards, like twice the size of regular cards. I hadn't noticed, I just saw aces and thought '****.' Meanwhile he actually had QK.

Last edited by Cantrell; 07-02-2015 at 02:43 AM. Reason: That bastard still spiked a K though, so **** him
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07-02-2015 , 04:18 AM
Yeah I also think that you see the black AQQ flop and brain just auto-assumes queen of clubs queen of spades a lot. The reason why for example the commentator noticed it is because he actually needs to read the cards out loud for the stream.
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07-02-2015 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Cantrell
It's actually a lot easier than you think. Our brains omit so many tiny things like that, especially when it's something you've done a million times over. Factor in long sessions, etc, I can see how it would be overlooked.

One of my first times playing live for actual money, it was a 12 person $50 sit n go. Three handed I got it all in with QQ, and my friend goes 'Boom, aces!' He slammed down two aces. I was like **** my life, and everyone was laughing. I didn't get it, and I looked down.. they were two jumbo sized cards, like twice the size of regular cards. I hadn't noticed, I just saw aces and thought '****.' Meanwhile he actually had QK.
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Originally Posted by Loctus
Yeah I also think that you see the black AQQ flop and brain just auto-assumes queen of clubs queen of spades a lot. The reason why for example the commentator noticed it is because he actually needs to read the cards out loud for the stream.
you are both right. tongue in cheek comments by me.

mind can do funny things (ref show Brain Games). it was funny to me watching colman just stare at the flop. his mind was saying Qc Qs, flop was saying Qc Qc
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07-02-2015 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
you are both right. tongue in cheek comments by me.

mind can do funny things (ref show Brain Games). it was funny to me watching colman just stare at the flop. his mind was saying Qc Qs, flop was saying Qc Qc
Yeah it was pretty funny afterwards, I think Trickett said something like 'What the ****, I even stared at the flop for a few seconds and didn't notice it..' Or something like that.
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07-02-2015 , 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by theskillzdatklls
has to be a bad printed deck right? people are stupid but rigging this kind of deck seems beyond the scope of insanity.
the whole deck is printed on one "sheet" (don't know the correct term for that) and then cut out. i don't know, who the manufactures quality controls the decks, but i'm pretty sure the original deck didn't contain a 2nd Q ... i also doubt, that someone tried to cheat. there are better ways of cheating and there are also private nosebleed games, w/o cameras ... it's more likely, that it was a simple mistake by the dealer


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Originally Posted by Cantrell
Yeah it was pretty funny afterwards, I think Trickett said something like 'What the ****, I even stared at the flop for a few seconds and didn't notice it..' Or something like that.
i guess the problem is, that no one expects to see two identical cards and the brain is conditioned, so basically every one saw a Qc and a Qs ... from some distance and a certain angle after some hours of play prolly not unlikely .. also polk seems to recognize the mistake, but wasn't sure ... maybe no one wanted to be look dumb and ask if these are identical cards ... idk

there are some card tricks, where the "magician" tells audience the wrong suits and ppl really "see" it ... all ppl itt where told, the flops shows two identical cards, so the brain already expected it ... i guess that's makes the difference

Last edited by NerdSuperfly; 07-02-2015 at 09:44 AM.
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07-02-2015 , 01:05 PM
Polk snuck that ****er in, what a cheater
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07-02-2015 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
the whole deck is printed on one "sheet" (don't know the correct term for that) and then cut out. i don't know, who the manufactures quality controls the decks, but i'm pretty sure the original deck didn't contain a 2nd Q ... i also doubt, that someone tried to cheat. there are better ways of cheating and there are also private nosebleed games, w/o cameras ... it's more likely, that it was a simple mistake by the dealer
I doubt they used a worn deck from a 1/3 game. They mostly likely had a brand new deck in a plastic wrapper.
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07-02-2015 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
Polk snuck that ****er in, what a cheater
He was really pissed off when the hand was cancelled because he flopped quads with the other two queens of clubs.

FWIW, it was reported that the deck had been changed about 10 hands prior to the discovery of the extra queen. Someone more autistic than me might want to watch the footage all over again to see if anything odd happened. (Probably nothing to see, though, as hole cards weren't shown).
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07-02-2015 , 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by blakeatron
Hand came up between Polk and Colman where the flop was AxQcQc.

Could be really bad for the random new people watching the stream that were wanting to get into poker, no? In their minds, there is still probably a huge "poker is rigged" mind set.
Doubt it. They'll probably think it's funny.

I remember this kind of thing happening almost every time a new online poker site opened back in the day. I had two Jh in the early days of Doyle's Room.
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07-02-2015 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
He was really pissed off when the hand was cancelled because he flopped quads with the other two queens of clubs.

FWIW, it was reported that the deck had been changed about 10 hands prior to the discovery of the extra queen. Someone more autistic than me might want to watch the footage all over again to see if anything odd happened. (Probably nothing to see, though, as hole cards weren't shown).
Nothing happened, these queens were spooned together all the time as if one card until that flop.
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07-03-2015 , 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by GiraffeGrass
Nothing wrong with that.
Are you high? Just you seem to be making a lot of posts that mean nothing really.
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07-03-2015 , 05:46 AM
LOL wats the point of streaming that with no hole cards....
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07-03-2015 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
I doubt they used a worn deck from a 1/3 game. They mostly likely had a brand new deck in a plastic wrapper.
and they never change it
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07-03-2015 , 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
He was really pissed off when the hand was cancelled because he flopped quads with the other two queens of clubs.

FWIW, it was reported that the deck had been changed about 10 hands prior to the discovery of the extra queen. Someone more autistic than me might want to watch the footage all over again to see if anything odd happened. (Probably nothing to see, though, as hole cards weren't shown).
Quads with a flush redraw is a strong hand in NLH.
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