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Two Plus Two Receives Substantial Judgment in Intellectual Property Infringement Lawsuit Two Plus Two Receives Substantial Judgment in Intellectual Property Infringement Lawsuit

10-29-2011 , 01:01 PM
This is not about the money, but the protection of the authors. That was an implied promise up front, and I congratulate Mason for standing up for the principal. It warns others not to mess with Mason or the writers he protects. No writer has the individual power. Mason protects them. This was such an egregious, excreable violation. That ol' boy needed to be squashed like a bug, and he was. Go Mason!
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10-29-2011 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
This is not about the money, but the protection of the authors. That was an implied promise up front, and I congratulate Mason for standing up for the principal. It warns others not to mess with Mason or the writers he protects. No writer has the individual power. Mason protects them. This was such an egregious, excreable violation. That ol' boy needed to be squashed like a bug, and he was. Go Mason!
Johnny and I do not see eye to eye on much, but this is one of those times.
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10-29-2011 , 05:51 PM
Congrats Mason!
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10-29-2011 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by fredd-bird
Mason,

Will you use any of that judgement money to further the agenda of legalizing and regulating online poker in the US?
Mason has provided the PPA forum, supported the community daily action plan with the forum wide announcement and threads in three forums here, donated ad space to PPA, and been very supportive of my personal efforts in the fight for licensing of online poker in the U.S.
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10-29-2011 , 09:48 PM
Good for you. I'm usually all for copyright infringement, but this goes too far.
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11-03-2011 , 12:56 AM
The same guy made a new site.
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11-03-2011 , 01:30 AM
Maybe you could use that money to start four plus four
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11-03-2011 , 01:48 AM
Good luck collecting
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11-04-2011 , 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by glenrice1
LOL. It actually is exactly what John Galt would do. The government enforcing property rights and contracts is about as Libertarian as you get. Stealing someone's property whether physical or intellectual is immoral. Maybe you should actually read Atlas Shrugged, instead of getting one of the core tenets of the philosophy wrong.
Interesting that you say that when on the whole, Libertarians generally are against recognizing Intellectual Property as real property.

So, you did exactly what you accused him of doing, shooting off without having the facts.

Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you correct someone else.
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11-04-2011 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tomark
So basically he is napster and you are mettalica.

Not something to brag about to internet people.


I tentatively agree with this ^. Before downloading music became " illegal", most people will admit that they did it, even though they knew that (sub) consciously they should be paying for it.

I understand the need and desire for people to protect their work, esp. when they intend it for sale. It's just hard for people like me to feel anger towards someone who will provide something for free that I will never buy.

As for copyright infringement and creating domain names that are similar to 2+2, this is done all the time, and if every case was in court it would take decades to settle them all. I mean, when I look a couple of shelves down from Frosty Flakes cereal with Tony The Tiger on the box declaring " They're Grrrrreat!", I see Frosted Flakes with Anthony the Lion, " We're Gooood!".

I also agree that if Scocozo and Boyd were given repeated warnings to make the appropriate changes to distinguish themsleves from 2+2 and stop providing free downloads, and they ignored them, then a lawsuit was the last option. ( If 2+2 demanded a punitve settlement with the warnings then I have no problem with them ignoring out of defiance).

I guess what I am trying to say is that I will never buy a book (or music for that matter)unless I have read something from that author for free. Stopping free downloads of books might be legally and ethically correct, but it is also counterproductive in some ways.

Do we really need poker books over experience to tell us how to play? After 10 years of live and online poker, I know how to play. Knowing how and what to do is a lot harder than actually doing it in the correct situations.
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11-04-2011 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FatDrunksky
Interesting that you say that when on the whole, Libertarians generally are against recognizing Intellectual Property as real property.

So, you did exactly what you accused him of doing, shooting off without having the facts.

Maybe you should actually know what you're talking about before you correct someone else.
I've read works by and about Ayn Rand for the last 10 years. I'm quite confident that I am correct.
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11-04-2011 , 04:30 PM
+1 to 2+2 FTW
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11-04-2011 , 04:37 PM
exciting news! thanks for sharing Mason, no really... thanks.
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01-21-2013 , 08:53 PM
Bump.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...-read-1291463/

Always wanted to do that.
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01-21-2013 , 09:19 PM
nice one Mason.
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01-22-2013 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by dstock
Do we really need poker books over experience to tell us how to play? After 10 years of live and online poker, I know how to play. Knowing how and what to do is a lot harder than actually doing it in the correct situations.
I know it's an old post, but.

If you don't think you need poker books for your game, then why in the hell do you think that they should be free instead of paid for?

Some of the authors have put a lot of work in these books. They should be paid properly (and it's not that they are superstars that earn millions no matter what, like Iron maiden or KISS or whatever).

You don't need them, then don't try to download them for free also!
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01-22-2013 , 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KL03
I'm curious about this. Was it "C&D or we'll sue you for $150k" or "give us $5k or we'll sue you for $150k"? In cases of non-commercial copyright infringement, I believe the former is appropriate. The latter gives them very little incentive to stop the infringing activity because they aren't going to pay up when they didn't profit from the infringement.

I want to be clear on this point though: what this guy was doing was certainly wrong and 2p2 must have an avenue to stop the infringing activity.
they might get money if he gets a job or pays taxes. Thats about the only way can recieve money.
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