Also remember for federal time there is no parole. You get 30 years, you do 30 years. It's "easier" than state prison but you're not getting out. The feds are the real organized crime racket.

Don't minimize what a federal indictment means.

Even ancillary figures will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, especially if there is no leverage to use as a plea bargain. It happens all the time and the sentences are harsh.

It isn't an exact comparison, but look at the cases of famous football players Plaxico Burress and Michael Vick. Once they were in trouble with the Feds, not even their lucrative playing careers could keep them from going away - in Vick's case due to maney laundering and illegal gambling, and in Plax's case for violating gun laws.

Justin Smith isn't going to get off easily unless he has something substantial to offer. The Feds aren't in the habit of going light simply because he was doing sports betting instead of more nefarious stuff. They nail you for what they can when indictments like these are handed down.

It is completely clear that Justin was not implicated in anything but sports betting. I am not minimizing anything. It just really bothers me when people slander a person with information that is not factual. Say what you must say but get facts right. Also why are you singling out Justin vs all the others who were indicted?

Where do you come up w/ this garbage?

I can't put a finger on why, but this made me .

So, what you are saying, is that Justin Smith didn't have backing from the same organization that took the plumber's business as a result of a gambling debt (and also physically threatened people)? Are you also saying that those houses and cars you talk about him having were paid for from funds other than from being connected to this gambling operation? What percentage of his income was from his involvement with this criminal organization, if any?

If you don't know, then I suggest not defending someone under indictment. If you feel the facts are wrong then please contact the Feds and let them know Justin Smith is innocent. The guy seems to be involved in one bad situation after another. Maybe he is just unlucky.

Here is his twitter profile. This is how he views himself. Looks like the fast lane has finally caught up with him. He will spend serious time in prison so make sure you check back in in a few years when he is wasting away thinking about his poor decisions...lol.

Justin Charles Smith Verified account
@BoostedJ

High Stakes Poker Player, TV/Movie Producer, Impresario. Lover of Art, Music and Creativity. Philomath.

HOLLYWOOD, California


This guy has no shame...haha. He won't even take this crap down from his Twitter profile after being indicted. Too funny.

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Re: 60k "Staking" dispute [Re: Butcho22]
#10444717 - 05/20/07 01:52 AM

hhaha boostedJ what a worthless degen loser.

Trick some guy into staking you 60K then full roll with it like a true degen.

OP, dont worry, Karma will catch up with him and the fagbag will get hit by a bus.

That or he will realize how pathetic he is and do the world a favor and remove himself from it

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I've been lurking here for a while. I found this in the archives. This guy must have been banned for being the 2p2 Nostradamus.

Wrong. Another person who is wrong. I don't even know the kid, and whatever happens to him won't effect my life one way or the other.

You guys who constantly defend people who do bad things are the ones who need to take a closer look. The kid admitted to some shady things in the past, yet now that he has graduated to the big leagues of bad decisions, everything thinks it is no big deal. Sooner or later someone in poker is going to get the first long prison sentence. I say it might as well be an arrogant young kid like this to serve as the poster boy.

It is obvious people think that it is no big deal with the big poker criminals like Russ Hamilton and Lederer free to walk around without a care in the world, so maybe getting tied in with a thug worldwide criminal group and going to prison will be what finally sends someone away for a long time.

We will find out soon enough.

Apparently if you are arrogant or a douche you get what you deserve by going to federal prison is a principle that some people live by. The CCA must be salivating.

You don't understand. Taking people's businesses by way of force/threats and then laundering money through those businesses, is big time criminal activity. Physically injuring people because of gambling debts is big time criminal activity.

So, if you knowingly are involved with these types of people in a bookmaking operation, then you are either an arrogant idiot, a moron, or a reckless person with no regard for the risk of the situation.

Unless you are telling me that the Feds have made a mistake, and Justin Smith was not involved with this organization, then you must deal with the facts of the case. And the facts are not kind to those indicted.

If you are associated with a bookmaking operation that is known for physically injuring those who do not pay, then I'm afraid your next stop is prison if you are convicted.

First step is indictment. Check. Next step prison.

That's not all you said. You said Boosted is getting what's coming to him because of stuff he has posted on his Twitter account and the way he thinks of himself. You seem to imply that it's okay for him to go to prison whether or not he is guilty of bad stuff.

Now, if you think he should go to prison based on the case, so be it. But the Twitter stuff is a total red herring and does not matter at all. Thinking you are better than others and such is not a crime. (Note: I'm not assuming any of these criticisms actually apply to Boosted, I have no idea, but even if they do, it has nothing whatsoever to do with whether he belongs in prison.)

The guy has been involved in unsavory behavior in the past in poker. He has admitted as much. So, he basically gets a free pass on that and is allowed to to run wild in the poker community as if nothing happens. That is fine. People deserve second chances.

However, he then is indicted, and is alleged to have been partners with serious serious criminals, some of which have been involved in murder, extortion, etc. Then, if you check his Twitter profile he seems to want the world to know that is a lover of fine art, a movie producer, one who lives in the fast lane, and impresario, etc.

So, if you add it all up he seems to be the typical psychopath who is used to not having to suffer consequences for bad behavior.

I am just making a comment in a thread about an indictment. I didn't start the thread, and I am not a prosecutor of the indictment.

But when you add it all up, if anyone on the planet deserves to go to prison, it is someone like Justin Smith who has admitted to victimizing people in poker in the past, was given a free pass to start again, and has now ended up under Federal Indictment, which will likely label him a felon for life.

Yes, I think that he DESERVES to go to prison for a number of years if he knowingly was associated with people who use physical threats to collect gambling debts. If you think that those types of people who make money off of that type of threat of violence should not go to prison, then send a letter to the Judge and plead your case.

So, we now know about his documented unsavory behavior in poker, and we now know that he is under Federal Indictment. What are the odds that these are the only bad things he has been involved in? Is he that unlucky that the only few times he committed crimes in his life that he was caught?

wow someone seems to be getting more than enough sodium in their diet...

well i dont see anything wrong with beating someone up and taking their business if they owe you money and were trying to freeroll you on credit. if some bookie tried to stiff me i would want to do the same but im probably not brave enough to risk jail.

isyou,

I'm just not understanding why you are including his love of fine art and supposed love of the fast lane lifestyle here. Those things have nothing to do with anything. A lot of the evidence you are using is circumstantial, and the feds may have more concrete evidence related to the case. Your conclusion may be correct, but the fact you keep including this nonsense from his twitter page to paint him as a sociopath reveals more about your own biases than whether Boosted is guilty of a crime.

I have a friend who was swept up in a similar mob/poker/extortion/rico thing a couple years ago. The initial charges against him stacked up to more than 20 years. But he was low level and ended up serving about 1.5.

This is all going to boil down to only one factor - how aggressively the Feds want to handle this case. When it comes to federal indictments, all predictions are off the table because they don't generally play around. They don't generally cut deals unless you have further information to offer. And they don't generally care about what collateral damage occurs.

It is conceivable everyone in the indictment will get maximum sentences. It is also conceivable that some will be reduced. It is unlikely however that those named will escape jail time altogether.

We might look at sports betting as a minor offense, but being named in an indictment means the Feds believe there is something worth prosecuting there.

That's really all that matters. What they think - not what we do.

Well, if you really want the truth, you're a complete and utter idiot.

You don't even have the slightest clue of what's going on. When the government breaks up a criminal organization they aren't going to charge Joe who ran the cash register the same as they will Sammy the Butcher who chopped up people in the backroom.

As an aside: Justin wasn't really involved in their "operations" (So I've been told) think of him more as an affiliate.

with affiliate you say he brought customers, collected bets and paid winnings while taking his share accordingly?

if so then seems like that would be a massive involvement in their operations, no?

I was really surprised that BoostedJ played the One Drop Million $ tournament, not anymore I guess...

Wow, so it is worse than I thought. So what you are saying is that he had the backing of this worldwide criminal organization and used that threat of violence as a means to collect gambling debts.

He must have thought he was living the life, knowing that those in the fast lane that he came across would always have to pay or his "partners" would physically injure them.

Unless you are saying that the FEDS have made a huge mistake and somehow wasn't partnered with these guys, then my guess is that we won't see Justin anywhere public for about 8 years. I gotta think he won't be arrogant enough to play in any WSOP events, and he is probably sick about having to likely go away for 10 years or so....probably getting his affairs in order and trying to convert things to cash so his wife isn't homeless when he has to go to prison.

Well, if there is any good news about Justin Smith going away for a long time, it is the idea that you have to be careful with whom you partner with in life, and you must always try to make good decisions.

The great news is that even if he goes away for 7-10 years, he will still be very young when he gets out, and he will have had plenty enough time to think about his what he did, and he will probably change his ways.

You have to think positive, Justin (if you are reading this). Get out a calendar and put check marks on it starting now. Sometime around 2021 you can give it another shot in society.

You must be new to this. Guys in the position I mentioned rarely... VERY RARELY serve jail time. If you think some guy acting as an agent would get 7-10 years you're delusional. Nor do you have any clue what an agent does.

JFC are u serious with this "life in the fast lane" nonsense. you sound like some backwoods religious zealot: "can't have them kids running around loving wine, fine art and living in the fast lane. thems be the suspect moral character." holy **** enough already.

I didn't start the thread. I am allowed to comment on it. All I know is that when you have a kid in his 20's, who had admitted to unethical behavior in the past, who then tells the world on his Twitter homepage that he is a lover of fine art, loves the fast life, is a movie producer, and an impresario, and also plays in a one million dollar buy in event, it all seems kinda funny.

And that is before the Federal Indictment...lol. Now, once you see the indictment and see who his alleged partners were (some of the biggest thug criminals in the world), then it leads me to believe that his mode of thinking and acting might me in need of an adjustment...lol.

By all means, behave like Justin Smith has in his first handful of years in adult society, and you might find yourself in a similar position as Justin Smith. Society finally stepped in and said ENOUGH...lol.