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The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting The Trincher Family, Abe Mosseri, Justin "Boosted J" Smith, John Hanson in Fed Sting

04-16-2013 , 09:38 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/f...6#.UW1Zqlcak8x

Last edited by Kevmath; 04-16-2013 at 10:07 AM. Reason: removed c+p of article
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04-16-2013 , 10:00 AM
I can't help but think that NY maintain those laws so the Mob can profit from it.

I doubt they make more money with home games then with Heroin/cocaine.

Just saying.
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04-16-2013 , 12:59 PM
Good luck to Gabe Kaplan
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04-16-2013 , 01:03 PM
I hate my state
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04-16-2013 , 01:05 PM
The authorities say the games were an offshoot of a massive money-laundering scheme.
They forgot to include the child porn, drug smuggling, and terrorism accusations.
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04-16-2013 , 01:13 PM
People might be surprised how many businesses are fake and used only for money laundering.. in fact, things like that neighborhood laundromat.
Wherever cash comes in and is unaccounted for can be used. Just claim the washing machines took in 3 or 4 times what they actually did.

But it makes no sense to me why they would use an illegal affair to launder money. Is the mob claiming their poker room took in twice the money it actually did, and thus hiding some of their income from heroin sales?

Last edited by joeschmoe; 04-16-2013 at 01:30 PM.
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04-16-2013 , 01:23 PM
You are correct. It does not make sense to launder illegal money through an illegal poker game.
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04-16-2013 , 01:28 PM
Meanwhile, the New York State Lottery, with a rake of 50% is legal.

http://nylottery.ny.gov/wps/wcm/conn...ncial+Reports/
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04-16-2013 , 01:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeschmoe
People might be surprised how many businesses are fake and used only for money laundering.. in fact, things like that neighborhood laundromat.
Wherever cash come in and is unaccounted for can be useful. Just claim the washing machines took in 3 or 4 times what they actually did.

But it makes no sense to me why they would use an illegal affair to launder money. Is the mob claiming their poker room took in twice the money it actually did, and thus hiding some of their income from heroin sales?
They changed the definition of money laundering several years ago so they could be hyper-dramatic when describing a crime. Basically any crime where the criminal obtains cash becomes money laundering as soon as they buy anything with it.
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04-16-2013 , 01:34 PM
The indictment is now available: http://www.scribd.com/embeds/1362739...ew_mode=scroll

This game is legendary in NYC circles. Really sad to see this happen. You may remember Molly Bloom from the Hollywood poker scandal - http://jezebel.com/5928712/hollywood...ng-on-a-memoir


PREET BHARARA
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHER DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - v . -
ALIMZHAN TOKHTAKHOUNOV, a/k/a "Taiwanchik," a/k/a "Alik,"
VADIM TRINCHER, a/k/a "Dima,"
ANA TOL Y GOLUBCHIK, a/k/a "Tony,"
MICHAEL SALL, STAN GREENBERG,
a/k/a "Slava," ILLYA TRINCHER, HILLEL NAHMAD,
a/k/a "Helly," JOHN HANSON,
NOAH SIEGEL,
a/k/a "The Oracle,"
JONATHAN HIRSCH, ARTHUR AZEN, DONALD MCCALMONT, DMITRY DRUZHINSKY ,
a/k/a "Dima,"
a/k/a "Blondie," ALEXANDER ZA VERUKHA,
a/k/a "Sasha," ALEXANDER KA TCHALOFF,
a/k/a "Murushka," ANATOLY SHTEYNGROB,
a/k/a "Tony," ILYA ROZENFELD, PETER SKYLLAS, RONALD UY , NICHOLAS HIRSCH, BRYAN ZURIFF, MOSHE ORATZ, KIRILL RAPOPORT, DAVID AARON,
a/k/a "D.A.," JUSTIN SMITH, ABRAHAM MOSSERI, PETER FELDMAN, EUGENE TRINCHER, EDWIN TING,
a/k/a "Eddie," MOLLY BLOOM,
WILLIAM BARBALAT, YUGESHWAR RAJKUMAR,
a/k/a "Mateo Hermatte," and JOSEPH MANCUSO,
a/k/a "Joe the Hammer,"

Defendants.

Last edited by *TT*; 04-16-2013 at 01:48 PM. Reason: this is going to be a HUGE story in the poker community once people realize who the indicted people are
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04-16-2013 , 01:37 PM
This US government. So stupid
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04-16-2013 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by davmcg
They changed the definition of money laundering several years ago so they could be hyper-dramatic when describing a crime. Basically any crime where the criminal obtains cash becomes money laundering as soon as they buy anything with it.
Hyper-dramatic.. well.. I suppose... it makes good copy.

But I don't see any practical use in that except as an excuse to mix legal and illegal income and tag it all as probably illegal.
Any money a perp spends on anything can be suspect, and the property can be seized.

"Joe the Hammer"... there's a nick. I'm eating.. I don't wanna know how or why..
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04-16-2013 , 01:50 PM
VADIM TRINCHER, a/k/a "Dima,"

https://www.google.com/search?client...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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04-16-2013 , 01:55 PM
Molly Bloom wow.

She had major LA celebrity and high rollergames and a beef with the Russian mob in NY when she tried to open up out there.
She used to arrange games for her boss and then she ended up running major major games .
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04-16-2013 , 04:07 PM
They seem to have grabbed up quite a number of the high stakes NYC players in this...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1318139
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04-16-2013 , 04:09 PM
there are more poker busts than drug busts.

Glad we got priorities straitened out
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04-16-2013 , 04:56 PM
people seems to be ignoring the fact that alot of it is because of their $50million sports betting operation.

anyone know if the justin smith named is in fact boosted j?
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04-16-2013 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by *TT*
JUSTIN SMITH

Boosted? or another Justin Smith?
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04-16-2013 , 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by *TT*
The indictment is now available: http://www.scribd.com/embeds/1362739...ew_mode=scroll

This game is legendary in NYC circles. Really sad to see this happen. You may remember Molly Bloom from the Hollywood poker scandal - http://jezebel.com/5928712/hollywood...ng-on-a-memoir


PREET BHARARA
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHER DISTRICT OF NEW YORK

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - v . -
ALIMZHAN TOKHTAKHOUNOV, a/k/a "Taiwanchik," a/k/a "Alik,"
VADIM TRINCHER, a/k/a "Dima,"
ANA TOL Y GOLUBCHIK, a/k/a "Tony,"
MICHAEL SALL, STAN GREENBERG,
a/k/a "Slava," ILLYA TRINCHER, HILLEL NAHMAD,
a/k/a "Helly," JOHN HANSON,
NOAH SIEGEL,
a/k/a "The Oracle,"
JONATHAN HIRSCH, ARTHUR AZEN, DONALD MCCALMONT, DMITRY DRUZHINSKY ,
a/k/a "Dima,"
a/k/a "Blondie," ALEXANDER ZA VERUKHA,
a/k/a "Sasha," ALEXANDER KA TCHALOFF,
a/k/a "Murushka," ANATOLY SHTEYNGROB,
a/k/a "Tony," ILYA ROZENFELD, PETER SKYLLAS, RONALD UY , NICHOLAS HIRSCH, BRYAN ZURIFF, MOSHE ORATZ, KIRILL RAPOPORT, DAVID AARON,
a/k/a "D.A.," JUSTIN SMITH, ABRAHAM MOSSERI, PETER FELDMAN, EUGENE TRINCHER, EDWIN TING,
a/k/a "Eddie," MOLLY BLOOM,
WILLIAM BARBALAT, YUGESHWAR RAJKUMAR,
a/k/a "Mateo Hermatte," and JOSEPH MANCUSO,
a/k/a "Joe the Hammer,"

Defendants.
lol these people know their ****
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04-16-2013 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by buckminster1
They seem to have grabbed up quite a number of the high stakes NYC players in this...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1318139
page 17 and 18 alleges some common everyday types of money laundering. They had lots of things going besides poker.
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04-16-2013 , 05:12 PM
at least they have cool nicknames.
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04-16-2013 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbomom
Boosted? or another Justin Smith?
More like Busted J
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04-16-2013 , 05:13 PM
Will they get more time than Ray Bitar?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/17/ny...-probe.html?hp
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04-16-2013 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesD816
Molly Bloom wow.

She had major LA celebrity and high rollergames and a beef with the Russian mob in NY when she tried to open up out there.
She used to arrange games for her boss and then she ended up running major major games .
More info on this?
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04-16-2013 , 05:27 PM
It's great to know, as a former US Resident/Citizen, that my Government has its priorities straight. While lunatics are bombing innocent people at public events we're wasting taxpayer dollars chasing around poker players and sports bettors. Shame on you FBI. Go solve some real ****ing crimes please.
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