with more information I would likely be betting against. Times is likely a pretty big dog here. Like some others said the amount of hands/time frame obviously have a big impact on his likelihood of success, but realistically 500z is one of the toughest games on the net, and the top 500 regs along with the 1k-2k regs that jump in occasionally are some of the best 6m nl cash players in the world. It's pretty naive to think that timex can just jump in and beat the games even as smart/good at poker in general he is.

Anyone seen him play and what time usually? Also does he use a different screen name on stars.

when this challange starts? Is he will be posting some results?

I had a look at about 5pm Tokyo time, which is like the worst time to play on stars and he had two entries. It's been stated in this thread that it's a private affair and he will not be posting updates.

So Timex sucks at poker and Tiger Woods sucks at golf. I don't like my chances of ever being good at anything.

How do you reach this conclusion?

Timex offered the prop bet. Hence

Random person - it depends. Some people aren't intelligent enough to grasp and apply the concepts in game. Look at how many people sign up for training sites, spend tons of time studying, and still aren't winners.

I would think that if someone was able to grasp and apply the concepts then the answer would be they could at least breakeven given a large enough sample size that takes away the impact short term variance good/bad.

wp

You realize why i asked this right?, like if 10hrs or there about of training is enough barring the player grasp the concepts n applies them correctly then claiming timex is miles away or comparing his 6max game to a person interested in flying to creating an airplane is just so preposterous tis not even funnay. If he really is just a few coaching hrs away then taking this bet seems dumb considering he has until end of the year or whatever the stipulation was.

p.s bringing up training sites are not a good judge of anything, half the time the coaches aren't even winners nor do they thoroughly explain themselves, watched too many dueces etc videos where they make plays without proper discussion or why it's a good play or not(atleast in the live play sessions).

ah okay, i gotcha.

TIMEX is a beast, with some run good he can do it!

Personaly I won't bet money on it.
Regs at the 500z probably are willing to go out of their way to battle him.
I think that some of them would play -EV just to make his life hard.
Also cash game players tent to not respect the MTT grinders much.
I see many reasons (ego wars) why he will be marked as the "spot"
and this could harm him more than you can expect...

Quick update: I've been losing a fair bit at the tables and even more on this bet. That said a few friends like my side and want action on me (I have a lot of action already so won't be upping my piece) pm me if anyone would like to bet a large amount against this

Could you give a ballpark figure of how large you mean?

+1

If you make a new thread i guarantee you can prob get another 100k (i would be down for 5kish depending on terms) in action but idk if that is considered "large" to you and if have multiple bettors is of interest to you

Timex, I'd prob bet against you. But depending on terms, like how many hands/winrate, etc. Resources u are using...
Can you provide more details about this? I'm interested

100k is about the right ballpark. A few bettors is fine but ideally it would just be a very small number of people betting who are comfortable either escrowing for a while or have a pristine enough reputation escrowing seems unnecessary

Oh ya i forgot the length of the bet, i am out

How do you want any1 to bet if people know conditions of the bet only from second hand/not from you personally? Im willing to bet big but you have to write all details down.

Debilne_Ucho

Sorry I should have been clearer. I was only responding to a specific posters very strange ideas about how to approach the game, not referring to timex at all. From everything I've read it looks like he has the infrastructure, methods and intellect to succeed at the bet, at least as good a chance as anyone.

Also my guess is 10 coaching hours is probably 20 times that worth of homework fwiw.

Particulars of the terms of the bet, please.

Go get em Timex

What winrates would 25/50+ regs like forhayley, fish2013, katya, etc have on 500 zoom?

If they take it serious 4-7ish

Odredbaron is as good as the best 6max players then?(im out of the loop of high stakes scene), but didn't he have a 5-6bb winrate over big sample in 500nl zoom?. Crazy to think the best 6max reg only has a 5bb edge in these games.