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02-11-2015 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Bc i dont see a single one of those live players jumping into one of teh toughest no limit online cg stakes and beating it pretty much from zero...

Being a smart kid is one thing, being able to beat 500zoom is another.

IMO
From what I know, Timex has played a lot of online poker, and I've seen him play 500z a bunch of times in the last year. He's not starting from zero.


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Originally Posted by I-Sue-U
I would never bet my money against him, he's not "just" another live tournament pro: he's used to play the High Roller and Super High Roller where the stacks are quite deep, he has a lot of friends to talk to and a lot of time to do so and think about the game.

Live HS tournaments are completely different. Everyone is way looser and plays a different style, and they're usually short.

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Originally Posted by TimStone
Wat it comes down to are teh actual conditions of teh bet.

Its a difference if he has to just turn a profit wit no min hand requirement or if he has to play 75k hands/month avg 3bb/100. On teh 2nd one id bet any day, probably alot moar than i should
Obviously he won't get 3b/100 anytime soon, but making more than one dollar pre rakeback is enough to be beating the game.

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Originally Posted by TimStone
I think u underestimate teh fear 500zoom creates. Id rather put my hand on teh stove than create an entry into this devils game ������
Is there a girl name 500 Zoom who once bit you in a dick lol? It's not an easy stake to beat, but it's not nosebleeds poker. It's a pool full of breakeven regs, fish and a couple strong regs.
02-11-2015 , 01:09 PM
The biggest difficulty will IMO be adjusting to the ranges that people are using partially because he just isn't used to the cash ranges at all (I assume?) and then also because there are some nuances to 500z itself.

The fact is that he's just not going to see some spots come up in mtts that are going to come up in cashgames because how often do you get multiway pots 100bb+ deep for everyone? Pretty unlikely after the first few levels...

Also, good ****ing luck getting an accurate representation of the ranges in some spots when some days you're playing hands against those nits PL and other days you've got russians like mulad flinging in bets willy nilly and hoping for the best.

The fact is, there's a a few good regs and a few not so good regs all which play a "normal" style and then you've got a few guys on either end of the spectrum that are really going to cause you problems until you realize how exploitable their strategy.

I think mulad is an idiot but the fact is that until you play with him a while and realize just how he plays you're going to overfold in about 98% of spots and he's just going to print off of yo if you assume he's an average reg.

I can't speak to the details of this challenge but if we assume his fundamentals are good enough to have any shot at winning (which I think is reasonable) then unless the sample size is going to be massive (250k hands+) I think how he runs in the initial 10-20k hands is going to determine whether he wins or loses overall. At the end of the day, a hot run at the start is going to get him the information he needs to have a shot at success while keeping his winnings ~0 or > 0. If he runs badly he's going to be down a pile early on and not pick up enough information about people's ranges (because they'll be frequently nutted over that sample so his perception will be skewed) which will not only start him down money but hurt him moving forward making it nearly impossible to win.

Last edited by North Squad; 02-11-2015 at 01:16 PM.
02-11-2015 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Id bet significant chunk against but without proper framework of volume, wr goal, etc. its not really possible to bet ������
Just get Mirage01 to post a Russian PTR graph at the end. Easy.

Last edited by Danshiel350; 02-11-2015 at 01:52 PM.
02-11-2015 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mixgrill
Is there a girl name 500 Zoom who once bit you in a dick lol? It's not an easy stake to beat, but it's not nosebleeds poker. It's a pool full of breakeven regs, fish and a couple strong regs.
Who are the couple of strong regs?
02-11-2015 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
I think u underestimate teh fear 500zoom creates. Id rather put my hand on teh stove than create an entry into this devils game 😂😂😂
i mean you can't spell the word "the" how do you expect to win at 500 zoom
02-11-2015 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jmo123
i mean you can't spell the word "the" how do you expect to win at 500 zoom
Can't tell if sarcastic or dumb.
02-11-2015 , 02:20 PM
Based on what we know, will bet a small amount against($100-300) at evens if anyone is interested.
02-11-2015 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jmo123
i mean you can't spell the word "the" how do you expect to win at 500 zoom
+1
02-11-2015 , 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mixgrill
Is there a girl name 500 Zoom who once bit you in a dick lol? It's not an easy stake to beat, but it's not nosebleeds poker. It's a pool full of breakeven regs, fish and a couple strong regs.
This
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Originally Posted by jmo123
i mean you can't spell the word "the" how do you expect to win at 500 zoom
lol and this
02-11-2015 , 05:21 PM
Want to see how this develops.
02-11-2015 , 05:58 PM
i forgot how dumb nvg is
02-11-2015 , 08:05 PM
with the amount of ******ation coming from regs that i've experienced in last couple of hands, its possible lol
02-11-2015 , 09:03 PM
good sample
02-11-2015 , 10:42 PM
Sorry but its laughable to think this runhot tournament donkey could come close to beating midstakes cash games.
02-11-2015 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rakemeplz
Sorry but its laughable to think this runhot tournament donkey could come close to beating midstakes cash games.
If you are being serious you are grossly underestimating him. He has an extremely sharp poker mind and wins money playing at $50K and $100K buy in MTTs. I would like to see your mid stakes regs come even close to what he can do at MTTs
02-11-2015 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by IPlayNLHE
Can't tell if sarcastic or dumb.
I'm not sure either if a guy consistently using "teh" and "moar" for years and thousands of posts is sarcastic or dumb either, but it certainly isn't clever or funny anymore...assuming it ever was.
02-11-2015 , 11:11 PM
need moar of teh TimStone ITT
02-11-2015 , 11:25 PM
Sorry, guise.
02-12-2015 , 12:21 AM
When there are no arguments teh grammar nazis coming out of teh basement

Also funny how mulad gets mentioned as a weird and easy to exploit reg while hes prolly one of teh top 20 no limit guys resultswise across all stakes. Interesting that not so many people seem good enuff to exploit teh kid 😂😂😂
02-12-2015 , 12:24 AM
TimStone for mod imo
02-12-2015 , 12:32 AM
Tim stone is a ****ing ******ed **** ffs
02-12-2015 , 12:58 AM
There are grammar nazis, and then there are those who think that intentionally typing "teh" for 6 years (and not just once in a while when it fits, but every time with a few exceptions when you forget and slip into adult mode for a post or two) makes you look like a 14 year old. But TimStone gunna TimStone, I guess.

Anyway, I know these posts will just encourage you because now "we mad" or something, so I'll step out and let the thread go back to a debate about a bet we don't know the details of, or for the "TimStone for mod"/"TimStone sucks" argument to continue.

Last edited by Bobo Fett; 02-12-2015 at 01:02 AM. Reason: Hey, I'm guilty of a "Hai guise!" once in while, but I'd feel pretty silly doing it for 90% of my posts.
02-12-2015 , 01:19 AM
Agreed, lets get back to the topic this thread is intended for
02-12-2015 , 01:44 AM
I think i'd take the Timex side at evens, assuming that it's just he is up one dollar after min x hands
02-12-2015 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Agreed, lets get back to teh topic this thread is intended for
FYP

Sorry had to.

On topic, I really got to take Timex on this since his orgins come from online poker and he is a very smart guy. Seems like some online guys think this is Dnegs all over.(claiming he can beat 25/50 online in 2 weeks)

      
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