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05-29-2014 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Majik1973
Can a player not use debit to purchase their buyins? It's obvious the dude made a special trip to the bank for a 35k withdrawal. So if this is possible, then why not get preapproved for a large debit transaction?

The word has been out for 10+ years now of how much cash is involved in every big event which will continue to draw out these thieves in the cities where events are held.

I honestly see no need of lugging a large amount of cash around unless you are a drug dealer.

If buyins are cash only when we have access to 35 yr old fool proof technology called a debit card, that's pretty sad.
Lol. The sad part is you are actually serious.
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05-29-2014 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by noah_the_donkey
Use the in-room safe.
I assume/hope the example below is rare:
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Originally Posted by Reefypoopoo
Hotel safes aren't always safe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW7M84khZy8 1m
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Originally Posted by noah_the_donkey
Hotel security can verify when a door was unlocked and which key was used to unlock it. They should also be able to see which code was used to enter the safe. If someone other than you happens to use the master code to unlock the safe, there should be record of that happening at least.
Re asking hotel security, I would rather be in control myself. I would like a text message when someone enters/exits the room. Of course that won't stop someone from entering and I'm unlikely to get back to the room in time, but couple that with adequate cameras and we are starting to get somewhere.

Do we have to start setting up hidden surveillance every time we stay in a hotel room? Maybe it's something some of us have to start considering. But there's only so much that can be done to discourage a thief.
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05-29-2014 , 09:58 PM
Sorry to hear about the thefts, definitely need a safety thing included in some coming to the wsop posts for all those people who don't know b/c I'm tired of hearing about this stuff. Most don't know a hotel room isn't safe esp one with a casino with cameras everywhere showing on the floor (presuming they're also everywhere else and obv they're not) so blaming people is ridic.

Simply stated, if it's an amount you'd be angry or ruined your day/vacation/life if you lost, make sure it's secure well beyond a hotel room door.
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05-29-2014 , 10:13 PM
Did I miss something or has no one yet mentioned travelers checks? American Express has them in denominations of $100 for sure and I think $500 as well. My bank gives me them for free for opening an account (senior citizen).
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05-29-2014 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
So so wrong its comical.
You are seriously one of the worst contributors on this site. 99% of your posts are one sentence with zero content. You really couldn't be bothered to point out WHY it's wrong for those of us looking for solutions? You just had to say it to feel self satisfied for knowing more than him about slot vouchers? Hope it worked I guess. Real proud of you Complainsaw...
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05-29-2014 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Czar Chasm
You are seriously one of the worst contributors on this site. 99% of your posts are one sentence with zero content. You really couldn't be bothered to point out WHY it's wrong for those of us looking for solutions? You just had to say it to feel self satisfied for knowing more than him about slot vouchers? Hope it worked I guess. Real proud of you Complainsaw...
Most machines stop at $3000 tickets or less. If there are machines that go higher, the thief could try your ticket until one accepts it and play on a total freeroll.
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05-29-2014 , 10:32 PM
Obv solution is to convert the money into food vouchers.
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05-29-2014 , 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WM2
Poker players have awful Human Resources skills.

$1500 a week paid in cash, you can hire a man- who is fresh off spending time in nasty places where all he did was kill people-to stand between your cash and any turd who may come for it. I'm carrying around six figures, the guy with the beard and sunglasses nearby has one job and its to be wherever my cash is.

There comes a point where it isn't always the money itself, per se, but when you're carrying around enough bread that marginal people would be willing to kill you to get at it, you should probably think about countermeasures, starting with how to move and store that cash so its secure pretty much every step of the way.
The irony of this post is just something else.
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05-29-2014 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bentaylor1988
That'd be weird if one total rewards hotel charged for the safe (ballys) and one didn't charge for the safe (rio) are you diamond in their rewards program? Diamond members get free safe use according to that article I posted
I had stayed at the Rio for 7 nights back in January 2012. I was the lowest member (not diamond or any of that), but had the whole stay comp'ed from play in AC. I wasn't charged a dime (they were doing free resort fees at the time) and I used the safe every day. So that does seem weird.
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05-29-2014 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Chr1s
I had stayed at the Rio for 7 nights back in January 2012. I was the lowest member (not diamond or any of that), but had the whole stay comp'ed from play in AC. I wasn't charged a dime (they were doing free resort fees at the time) and I used the safe every day. So that does seem weird.
If they wernt charging resort fees it would make sense that they also wouldn't charge safe fees
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05-29-2014 , 11:43 PM
I was always told not to leave laptops and stuff out because hotel maids and the like will steal them. Obv this could be something unrelated.
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05-30-2014 , 01:04 AM
I've always thought the car (if you have one while travelling) is a great place to stow valuables. It's not difficult to steal from a parked car, but one would have to know there are valuables located there in order to attempt a burglary. Said burglary would require entrance to the vehicle, which should be loud enough and visible to prevent the would be thief from even trying if car is parked in well lit, heavily trafficked area.

Just keep your car devoid of electronic items in view. Thieves might break in for the electronics and walk away with a wad of cash/high denomination chips. That would be their run good.
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05-30-2014 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MacauBound
I've always thought the car (if you have one while travelling) is a great place to stow valuables. It's not difficult to steal from a parked car, but one would have to know there are valuables located there in order to attempt a burglary. Said burglary would require entrance to the vehicle, which should be loud enough and visible to prevent the would be thief from even trying if car is parked in well lit, heavily trafficked area.

Just keep your car devoid of electronic items in view. Thieves might break in for the electronics and walk away with a wad of cash/high denomination chips. That would be their run good.
BECAUSE

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05-30-2014 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DaycareInferno
Obv solution is to convert the money into food vouchers.
Confirmed [X]

LOL I couldn't help but note that this post immediately follows a Kessler post... LMFAO (nice shot, man.....)

Last edited by Bukowskium; 05-30-2014 at 01:30 AM. Reason: BTW : Alan is right sometimes, ya know... He does know slots...
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05-30-2014 , 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheel Gunner
Did I miss something or has no one yet mentioned travelers checks? American Express has them in denominations of $100 for sure and I think $500 as well. My bank gives me them for free for opening an account (senior citizen).
Denominations are actually up to $1000 per this link:

http://www.americanexpress.com/pr/en...s-cheques.html
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05-30-2014 , 02:42 AM
Off topic but I was interested in what would be the best emergency funds in case of a extended power outage that would make electronic money unavailable.

Travelers Cheques/Checks seem to me to be the best option. They don't expire, they are insured against loss and theft.

Any other thoughts would be welcome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveler%27s_cheque
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05-30-2014 , 02:58 AM
Having never had any occasion to have more than $150 and a crappy laptop on me at a hotel, I'm really curious to know how people who play in the high-stakes games protect themselves from the obviously non-existent anti-theft measures at casino hotels.

What if I am a legit pro (or just a huge whale at the pits) and I need a roll of 200K (or more) for all the tourneys/side-action/blackjack I plan on playing? Do you use the "box" at the front which I keep seeing mentioned here? How can you be sure that anything at these places is safe?

This post has 1/2 the content of a normal NVG thread, but I'm just so curious after reading through all this. :-)
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05-30-2014 , 03:09 AM
never leave valuables in your room. they arent safe there and the room safes are not either. they are just a better place to leave small valuables than in sight.

you are safer carrying your cash and can carry 35000 easily out of sight.

put it in the cage on deposit and draw it out when you need it is the best way.
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05-30-2014 , 03:35 AM


I always use this low tech method for hiding cash and small electronics in casino hotel rooms.
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05-30-2014 , 03:40 AM
I always lay assault rifles, jewelry, used condoms, and bags of coke next to my piles of cash. On mupltiple occasions I left 200K+ for multiple days unattended. Never a problem. If seomone wants to get fresh, they look elsewhere because they assume they are dealing with a kingpin of some sorts and its not worth to mess.

Only time I ever had a problem was when a maid tried to report me because the guns and drugs upset her (drug wars were rampant in her neighborhood when she lived in Mexico). I told her it was all for show and I'm not a drug czar and we both laughed it off.
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05-30-2014 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by uckmydayjob
lol @ lee jones, he must be so happy that this has happened.
hes probably expecting everyone to boycott the WSOP just like Barcelona.

He doesnt understand that the reason people boycotted is not because someone broke into their rooms, its because how Pokerstars handled it..

Should be interesting to see how WSOP handles it.
wtf does the wsop have to do with this?
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05-30-2014 , 03:57 AM
You know what else works ... you go out in the desert and catch a rattlesnake. They come out at dawn before it gets too hot, and they are docile. They will rattle at you, but you can just pick 'em up by the tail and they usually wont bite. Drop 'em in a pillow case, put your money in there and nobody is gonna get your money, because after awhile the snake will become pissed off and try and bite you through the bag. At that point, the only way to get the money, is to somehow release the angry rattlesnake from the bag without gettin bit. Good luck with that, thieves.
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05-30-2014 , 05:45 AM
Someone should invent an iphone app, where if you move the phone in sleep mode it sounds like a rattlesnake and vibrates.

And give me 50% for the idea.
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05-30-2014 , 05:56 AM
I've seen 6 foot, angry ass snakes that scared firemen. We generally call the fire department for a snake that size. They only can move it 1 mile away by law. The little ones are just as dangerous though. As a matter of fact, it's said that the little ones inject more venom, because they haven't learned that you are not prey and a waste of venom.

They also get angrier ... in your pilow case full of cash and snakes. Easier to open the bag, throw more cash at them, tie it back shut.
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05-30-2014 , 06:00 AM
Serious question.

If I have a right to carry and conceal in Arizona or California, I can drive across the border with a firearm, right? As long as I declare it, if asked about it at a border crossing.

Words that should never be said: "They stole my Colt 1911!"

Clifs: Jay Farber was ripped off, they stole his Colt 1911.

The one I have can be traced back in the family. Excellent sidearm. Only one way you are taking it from me.

Cause I get there Saturday with a sack full of rattlesnakes. Maybe I should bring my gun, too.

Last edited by afwoods; 05-30-2014 at 06:18 AM. Reason: Same round as from a Thompson sub-machine gun
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