Probably because he not worth playing if a quarter of what he is accused of is true. Especially if hes blind and button hoping.

Can we rename this thread "The OG Tom Dwan thread"? and merge fan boys.

Did he degen a 7 figure WPT score that took 5 days to win in about 90 minutes after being paid in chips at a craps table?

You mean private world right?

Maybe he zoned out briefly and thought he was the BB. Maybe he misread his hand as TTA5ds. Maybe his misread his position. Maybe he had some next level plan. Maybe he was advertising.

Reading too much into any one hand is definitely a frequent mistake in live poker.

This is similar to guy liberte accusing olp players of cheating I wouldn't be surprised but I don't believe it. Not because of their reputation or what I think of their morals just the fact of why risk it when you don't need too.

Especially in a limit game these business guys are geniuses at their craft but they're drawing dead against guys that eat off poker.

Guys like beal and dan shak have as much a chance at beating pros in these games as pros have at being better businessmen in their line of work. The cheating accusations always come when they reflect on the amount they loss.

Id say its more likely they would cheat each other than a fish #shaun deeb

I hate hearing this, why would AP, UB cheat in ridiculous ways and expose themselves, FT, microgaming etc. There are a million examples in the real estate, financial etc. Anything involving money people get greedy and will push the envelop for more. The simple answer is they are human, that's why. People used to call nvtards for their conspiracy theories but yes we were all be cheated at basically every site we thought was printing money. Your edge was still greater vs the field, taking into consideration your chances of getting cheat or funds stuck, you still played.

This has nothing to even do with Forrest specifically- if a wait list doesn't form when someone sits that doesn't mean they're great. It just means they aren't a huge fish.

this thread is pathetic. as stated before forrest has a good rep, has never cheated or scammed (as far as anyone knows), and if he's playing lower stakes now than he was in the past, so what? so is pretty much everybody, the poker boom is long since gone.

on the other hand, the only time i ever played with him, at wynn macau, he ordered a coke and the waitress brought it already opened, along with a glass. He demanded she take it back and get him a can that hadn't been opened yet. so make of that what you will

The rumours are about the HU sessions he played against Beal after joining the corporation

insanity.

I think Beal would have been on the lookout for a mechanic.
He wanted to play heads up only so the corporation couldn't cheat him. However, this could lead to speculation that the corporation may have brought in an edge sorter to gain an advantage.

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There is no waiting list that forms when he sits down. The same cannot be said for many others.


Also for the fact that this pretty much doesn't exist anymore in busy Casino's like the Borgata. There is usually more than one 20/40 or 40/80 game going at once and as everyone knows you can't get on a list for one specific table. Also, once the list gets to a certain point, they start a new table. No way to know if anyone specifically is being targeted or just a busy night with more than one or two tables going.

Oh, and the fact that he only plays an hour or two max at each table. He jumps around in games a lot (water bottles in hand ).

When they played heads up they had two dealers. One dealer dealt only and the other shuffled. They didn't want to waste any time between hands.

So Ted Forrest won't be around in 5 years? How about Dwan? Will he still be around in 5 years? Who lasts longer as a pro?

back in the day i used to c him do very well with the commerce cocktail waitresses

Depends on what you mean by 'being around'. I am sure they will both be around, they are degen poker players. Not sure if they will have profited well off the game in 5 years though. According to most sources, Dwan is rather busto as well, and pretty far in make up. He certainly is no where near what he was 5-10 years ago.

BTW - I have never seen or heard of Forrest cheating or scamming anyone either.

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Hi Everyone:

I only know Ted Forrest slightly and remember playing some stud against him many years ago. But I do know that he was always well liked and was considered highly ethical.

Best wishes,
Mason

Thank you Mason for your input. Let's stop with the Ted bashing as far as the kind of person he is without any evidence.

This.

Are there still 200/400ish stud games that run regularly in AC? If so, I'm surprised that Ted is playing 30/60 Holdem. Stud seems like one of those games where there wouldn't be a huge difference between a 2006 game and a 2016 game. Nobody played 12 million hands of stud online. Nobody is building a stud GTO dream machine. If someone could crush stud then, it would be kind of odd if they can't crush stud now. There are probably literally the same guys in a lot of the games, and most probably aren't the computer nerd mathy type. Is stud just dead in AC now?

20/40 is basically the highest that runs with the occasional 75/150. But the 75 doesn't seem like it has been going lately.

So anything 100/200 and above is always mixed.

He didn't pAy the big & it was 75/150 O8 will a kill, advertising would have been transparent.

Just to try and drive this thread completely off the rails I just learned that Alan Boston has been running so bad at betting College Basketball(what he's known for), that he recently moved back to the East Coast to grind 20-40 stud at Foxwoods in hopes making a living. Maybe he could tell us something about Ted's skeeels.

Whatever happened to Barry Greenstein's website where he profiles big players? I remember reading something like "If you ever wanted to know what being in the eye of a hurricane is like, play stud 8 or better with Ted". Barry thought that was his best game.