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08-19-2016 , 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny S
Cue the DNegs quotes about how Mizzi had changed and he was sure he could be trusted these days. By the way it's tough to enforce a two year ban on a player when he doesn't play on his own account.
It's impossible.
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08-19-2016 , 04:34 AM
i have no issues with americans wanting to use VPNs to play from the states. Who gives a **** what country your playing from, just play poker.
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08-19-2016 , 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Cornishpatriot
i have no issues with americans wanting to use VPNs to play from the states. Who gives a **** what country your playing from, just play poker.
Did you read the thread? He played under a account which was not his and was vpn'ing. Who give a **** if you have no issues with it lol! Its simply against the TOS. But thanks for giving us ur highly appreciated opinion.
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08-19-2016 , 05:17 AM
lol Sorel gonna Sorel
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08-19-2016 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Setup_exe
Did you read the thread? He played under a account which was not his and was vpn'ing. Who give a **** if you have no issues with it lol! Its simply against the TOS. But thanks for giving us ur highly appreciated opinion.
Its illegal to smoke weed in my state, are you going to call the cops on me for smoking? Un just laws should not be enforced.

Its not like he was playing HS cash, where people are risking thousands based on reads they have of that account, he was playing a tournament where nobody really knows each other.

Not saying the guy isnt a scumbag, but Im not crucifying him for that.
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08-19-2016 , 08:56 AM
I kinda feel the same. It's ridiculous grown adults can't play from the us so I have no issue with the vpn'ing. The multi accounting is pretty crap tho
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08-19-2016 , 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HossBonaventureCEO
Its illegal to smoke weed in my state, are you going to call the cops on me for smoking? Un just laws should not be enforced.

Its not like he was playing HS cash, where people are risking thousands based on reads they have of that account, he was playing a tournament where nobody really knows each other.

Not saying the guy isnt a scumbag, but Im not crucifying him for that.
well he was playing HS tournaments and a decent pro behind some random (fish) account is unfair. not saying he gained massive advantage but thinking this didn't affect others is a bit ignorant.

besides that, law - even if they are 'stupid' in your eyes - are still laws and if you get caught, you can't argue with your own interpretation of right and wrong

he was caught and now got a punishment, actually no big deal tbh
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08-19-2016 , 09:35 AM
Hastings got a ton of hate for doing the same thing.
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08-19-2016 , 09:45 AM
let the man play
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08-19-2016 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by HossBonaventureCEO
Its illegal to smoke weed in my state, are you going to call the cops on me for smoking? Un just laws should not be enforced.

Its not like he was playing HS cash, where people are risking thousands based on reads they have of that account, he was playing a tournament where nobody really knows each other.

Not saying the guy isnt a scumbag, but Im not crucifying him for that.
If the weed smoking was causing you to steal money or if it made you a threat to public safety, then, yes, I would call the cops on you.
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08-19-2016 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by HossBonaventureCEO
Its illegal to smoke weed in my state, are you going to call the cops on me for smoking? Un just laws should not be enforced.

Its not like he was playing HS cash, where people are risking thousands based on reads they have of that account, he was playing a tournament where nobody really knows each other.

Not saying the guy isnt a scumbag, but Im not crucifying him for that.

Worst post itt so far...just:lol!
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08-19-2016 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by NerdSuperfly
besides that, law - even if they are 'stupid' in your eyes - are still laws and if you get caught, you can't argue with your own interpretation of right and wrong
Lol, What world do you live in?
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08-19-2016 , 06:07 PM
Last time i checked NerdSuperfly still got a paycheck from Amayastars, so don't take him too seriously.
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08-20-2016 , 12:38 AM
Sure it's ridiculous that people in the US can't play online poker, but Sorel's actions aren't just refusing to abide by an unjust law. He gets to play from home on an anonymous account vs people who have to leave behind friends and family to relocate to a different country and play under their established s/n. He's taking unfair advantage of people who actually follow the rules they agreed to. That's what makes him a cheating scumbag, not the fact that he's breaking the rules.
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08-20-2016 , 01:31 AM
I didn't think it was possible to vpn Stars. Unless you physically have a machine in another country and operate that remotely.
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08-20-2016 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Hastings got a ton of hate for doing the same thing.
Fat guy prejudice.
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08-20-2016 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Setup_exe
Did you read the thread? He played under a account which was not his and was vpn'ing. Who give a **** if you have no issues with it lol! Its simply against the TOS. But thanks for giving us ur highly appreciated opinion.
It's against the TOS? Have you always given accurate information when signing up for a freemail, news, etc. site? I haven't. I have not had criminal intent, but I haven't done it, simply to protect my privacy. Yet I have clearly violated the TOS of these sites. I never thought of it as a big deal. Why would I think it is a big deal for a poker site?

People give Ivey a pass for playing when he was underage. Why is that? Because it is cute? He was taking people's money he didn't have a right to.

Let's have a consistent standard.

I suppose, if I was a winning, high level player, I wouldn't play on sites where doing so violated the tos. But for me personally, if I coiuld figure out a way to play penny poker on Stars I would do it. I enjoy the competition in a bigger variety of games (eg. tired of losing at HE and PLO) and the larger tournaments.
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08-20-2016 , 06:19 AM
Playing underage didn't give Ivey an advantage over the people whose money he was winning.

NVGers playing busto stakes tend to get way more upset about MAing and VPNing than the people who actually play in these games, especially when the culprit is already someone they don't like such as Hastings or Sorel.
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08-20-2016 , 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio
Playing underage didn't give Ivey an advantage over the people whose money he was winning.

NVGers playing busto stakes tend to get way more upset about MAing and VPNing than the people who actually play in these games, especially when the culprit is already someone they don't like such as Hastings or Sorel.
I don't really mind the VPNing but the MAing is not even up for debate.
This have nothing to do with like or dislike somebody.
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08-20-2016 , 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bot01101
If the weed smoking was causing you to steal money or if it made you a threat to public safety, then, yes, I would call the cops on you.
So, I guess you call the cops every time you see a bad driver put other's lives at risk? If not, you're a hypocrite who doesn't genuinely support what he is saying.
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08-20-2016 , 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
I didn't think it was possible to vpn Stars. Unless you physically have a machine in another country and operate that remotely.
Set up a cloud server somewhere in Europe or wherever on the globe and you're set.
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08-20-2016 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
Hastings got a ton of hate for doing the same thing.
Maybe its just me... but I think MAing to play in tournaments, and MAing to play HS cash are totally different.
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08-20-2016 , 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by HossBonaventureCEO
Maybe its just me... but I think MAing to play in tournaments, and MAing to play HS cash are totally different.
Only a question of degree. In both cases, you are gaining at the expense of others by breaking the rules.
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08-20-2016 , 03:35 PM
To all of the winning high stakes poker players out there that are unaware: internet poker is sketchy. Between bots, shady cashouts, collusion, hacking software... This is pretty low on the totem pole.

SO youre supposed to be a pro, in a tournament and you realize, this guy is pretty good. Like a lot of good unknowns, you adjust and play appropriately. Do you really think there are spots where you'd be like: if only i knew it was Sorel and not an anonymous crusher, I would have played so differently. lol. Multi account in tournaments all you want.

disclaimer: small pool cash games are a different story obv. TO be clear though, a US player that is forced to change SN's to play in high stakes cash is not doing anything wrong in my book as long as they stick with the name. If you skip around names on purpose to deceive its pretty scummy (ala Harrington). Anyone who plays highstakes online without the assumption that there are a million shady things going on at once is not very smart.

Everyone back in the day spent time crafting SN's that seemed the fishiest.

Huge games no longer run online. DUCY?

Source: was there, no longer care
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08-20-2016 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Aceholio
SO youre supposed to be a pro, in a tournament and you realize, this guy is pretty good. Like a lot of good unknowns, you adjust and play appropriately. Do you really think there are spots where you'd be like: if only i knew it was Sorel and not an anonymous crusher, I would have played so differently. lol. Multi account in tournaments all you want.

disclaimer: small pool cash games are a different story obv. TO be clear though, a US player that is forced to change SN's to play in high stakes cash is not doing anything wrong in my book as long as they stick with the name. If you skip around names on purpose to deceive its pretty scummy (ala Harrington). Anyone who plays highstakes online without the assumption that there are a million shady things going on at once is not very smart.
What a stupid train of thought. It's like saying "yeah I agree stealing all of someone's money is bad, but if it's just 100$ then who cares". And that's if I translate your nonsense literally I still disagree, there's a huge difference between a random reg and a guy like this in how I'd deal with him at the table. Besides, in a small high stakes cash game pool you can often figure out who's who fairly quickly, but not in mtts.
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