Mods I think this deserves it's own thread in NVG. Others have had dedicated threads for less, especially with less history.

At this stage it just appears to be allegations but pretty severe allegations. But with a past like Sorel's there may just be weight to these accusations.

From MTTc thread http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...7/index23.html

Another post was made:

As most would know Sorel has a history with not only multi-accounting but also directly cheating other players in person.

Zangbean24 Account banned

Sorel bottom dealing John Racener at PCA

He was once (multiple times) forgiven by the poker community for his misgivings. I for one hope he won't be this time if this is in fact all true

A lot of speculation, but I do not see much actual proof. Statements such as "It is common knowledge in the high stakes community" have very little value. Its not Sorel Mizzi's job to defend himself until he has actual evidence against him.

disclaimer: I do not know much regarding the specifics OP is talking about (nor do I really care all that much), but I just think above post is pretty basic and is not really thread worthy unless more evidence is presented.

what worse is he decided to do an HD up close interview pre PCA final table with a giant cold sore on his mouth. pretty gross lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JqrIkoHlHU (within 30 seconds of this video)

The rules of poker as I understand them, involve not setting the deck, bottom dealing, hole carding etc... Breaking Pokerstars TOC is a step down from breaking those rules. The allegations surrounding the incident with John Racener are significantly more serious then the allegations that he was playing on pokerstars under VPN from the US or multi accounting.

To my mind Pokerstars government pressured rules on who can play from where or the rules surrounding the easy, anonymous, and readily available to everyone option to multi account do not hold the same weight as the historical rules of what constitutes poker cheating. That being said, I would prefer to not gamble with Sorrel after the Racener allegations became public, the Pokerstars TOS stuff doesn't change my opinion of him significantly.

The teeth are the windows to the soul.

readily available to scum

lol poker rules, he tried to superuse his friend who was on the final table at the same time.

Shame he can't get his **** together. He is actually a very good player.

I was always surprised to see him back playing on tv cash games, after the Racener thing.

The guys a clear scumbag, and you have to think about what the people are like who still associate with him after that. Not surprised that Liv Boeree is being mentioned here.

So far, this comes off as nothing more than a drive-by smear. There are a whole lot of accusations covering enormous ground (multiaccounting, playing within the US, debt repayment, etc) without anything substantive behind them.

Pokerstars: why don't you employ Geocomply on your ROW sites? You obviously know it exists (since you're launching in NJ). It would stop 99.9% of VPN'ing on your site.

I guess whoever the account is owned by will come forward if therebisnsuch accusations being posted against them. Op looks more than just random accusations, it's using names of actual accounts. Maybe Rory or Liv post something too. If Rory is still friends with him and this is made up he would stick up for his friend and obviously this is huge accusation against Liv who will likely want to defend herself.

If these accusations turn out to be true I think they're more damning for Liv Boree than they are for Sorel since Liv is a Team PokerStars Pro.

I wonder what DOJ thinks of this.

Will this thread end up being as big as the one about Hastings?

shocker... known scum still scumming.

If David "Bakes" Baker played in any of these MTTS it has a chance

He goes to Burning Man now so it's all good. She goes to Burning Man AND works for REG so it's all good.

This is on Amayastars so I'm having a hard time giving a ****......

Lmao at using schizofrenia as an excuse. Any actively psychotic person would not be able to set up VPNs, several accounts, play 8+ hour poker tournaments, not to mention perform calculated, opportunistic acts such as contacting other players at the final table to scam them.

Maybe he has schizofrenia, I dont know, but there is no ****ing way hes actively psychotic while performing scams like this.

Rory has told me this story before back in December so it's not a random thing the OP is making up.

with that stop doing drugs tweet there was also some weird jail story about needing water and clothes or some **** that i couldn't understand...


its hard to fathom someone being so dumb/running so hot.. that they were able to blatantly cheat multiple times and then somehow get back on the community's good side and parlay it into high-roller tourney success/sponsorship/poker media coverage only to **** on everyone again...lol...

Maybe sometimes he even superuses himself!

oh what? MA / VPN is standard at the highest levels?

oh what? you cry baby tool boys wasted your energy needlessly crucifying Hastings?

- shocker -

hopefully you have energy left to attack, slander, shame, hate Sorel for the next 6 months. unless you're planning to balance your range in this instance by giving a pass.

Also kind of interested in seeing if Liv gets shown the same venom here that Ike faced in the Hastings thread.