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Originally Posted by Vuggie
Yeah, I understand where you are coming from. However, the fact that they are businessmen and are older doesn't mean that all of these guys just suck (although many do). These are people who are very successful in life; therefore, they are generally quite clever. Some of them play high stakes games against some of the best pros on a regular basis, and can play quite well. It's wrong to assume that they are all stupid or massive whales that can be easily beat by an average small stakes online player.
i am not assuming that they are stupid. As nitty as these guys are, they are also very likely to fall in love with their hands and maybe overlook that their opponent could have a better hand. I think this is what happened to Morgan here. For him seeing that 8 on the turn screams nuts as he probably put the Russian on a flush draw that completed on turn and was extracting value with river shove. He could not even imagine quads , which in reality is very hard to imagine for anyone, he just wanted the board to pair.
This is the type of players these guys are, they are nits that play abc poker and to beat them you have to surprise them, plus this guy does not think of the buy-in of one million, they are happy to play what they think is the best hand and in most cases is, for amateurs that don't play so much poker its even easier to overlook a better hand. You can tell off course the old guy is a snake when he plays it cool, doesn't show and pretends to be disappointed with fold.
We might never know what he had, but because Morgan instant called on the flop i am leaning towards JJ, not completely excluding the possibility he had T9s, but i would say its 75-25% in favor of JJ which imo makes it a bad fold by Smirnov.