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Old 04-15-2011, 02:17 PM   #176
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

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Manhattan U.S. Attorney PREET BHARARA said: "As
charged, these defendants concocted an elaborate criminal fraud
scheme, alternately tricking some U.S. banks and effectively
bribing others to assure the continued flow of billions in
illegal gambling profits. Moreover, as we allege, in their zeal
to circumvent the gambling laws, the defendants also engaged in
massive money laundering and bank fraud. Foreign firms that
choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the
laws they don’t like simply because they can’t bear to be parted
from their profits."
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FBI Assistant Director-in-Charge JANICE K. FEDARCYK
said: "These defendants, knowing full well that their business
with U.S. customers and U.S. banks was illegal, tried to stack
the deck. They lied to banks about the true nature of their
business. Then, some of the defendants found banks willing to
flout the law for a fee. The defendants bet the house that they
could continue their scheme, and they lost."
Oof.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #177
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

first step on taking down these sites uh oh
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #178
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

I'd request a cashout, but if processors/banks have been charged it's probably a futile effort.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #179
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Scott Tom of Absolute is one of the indicted, thought he was still no longer involved?
WOWOWOW
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #180
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Gross. Just gross.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #181
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

I believe the five domains are pokerstars.com, fulltiltpoker.com, ub.com, ultimatebet.com, and absolutepoker.com.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #182
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

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They are shutting them down so they can start U.S. based ones and make $ from it: http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/...lears-congress
Yeah, I was thinking this, except ... most state gov'ts can't even pass a bill for regulated online poker. It's probably going to come to jizak's conclusion, but not for a long time.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #183
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0buIN52ewCc
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #184
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

I just went all in preflop with AA on full tilt 25nl rush and they help up. They held up.

WHAT IN SWEET JESUS' NAME IS GOING ON HERE?!?!
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:18 PM   #185
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lol
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:19 PM   #186
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

Are we gonna have "run on the bank" scenario from poker players now? Feds are freezing bank accounts, players withdrawing their rolls - will the sites cope?
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:19 PM   #187
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ahhhhhhhhh ahhhhhhhhh wtf. This is some crazy poopy garbage poop. What is going on???? How can i show my mad poker skills to the world now???? On the plus side maybe Lederer and the jerks who own pokerstars will be arrested
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:19 PM   #188
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here is the court order

http://www.justice.gov/usao/nys/pres...dictmentpr.pdf
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #189
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very well played.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #190
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

I'm not really sure why you guys are withdrawing your money. The US gov't can go after domains, but they can't (read: 99.99% won't) block your access to the site's game servers.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #191
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

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Of the billions of

dollars in payment transactions that the Poker Companies tricked

U.S. banks into processing, approximately one-third or more of

the funds went directly to the Poker Companies as revenue through

the "rake" charged to players on almost every poker hand played

online.


This part bothers me a lot
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #192
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

I guess it's off to the casino tonight instead. Means I'll have to change out of my sweats and maybe even shave. Maybe.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:20 PM   #193
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

I predict this is going to be another Neteller scenario. The feds are basically going to extort enormous sums of monies from the site operators. What great ****ing news this was to wake up to.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #194
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

this is very ironic after DC has made it clear they are opening up a internet gambling site
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #195
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

Seized and charged on Tax Day FTW. nh, Feds.

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The house doesn’t always win.

Today, the founders of PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker are among eleven defendants charged by the Department of Justice with bank fraud, money laundering, and illegal gambling offenses, MarketWatch is reporting.

Authorities issued restraining orders for upwards of 75 bank accounts used by the poker companies and their payment processors. In addition, five Internet domain names used by the companies, the largest U.S. online poker websites, were seized.
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...ites-indicted/
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #196
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

Do not know if I am being a slowpony, but pokerstars.com, fulltiltpoker.com and absolutepoker.com all work in Holland. Only ub.com displays said message here and nl.ultimatebet.com only displays a blank page. Never visited that site so I do not know if that is normal. I just finished playing a 4 hour session on Stars, so that server works as well.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #197
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

Cash out via check than bank transfer IMO
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #198
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

Because U.S. banks and credit card issuers were largely
unwilling to process their payments, the Poker Companies
allegedly used fraudulent methods to circumvent federal law and
trick these institutions into processing payments on their
behalf. For example, defendants ISAI SCHEINBERG and PAUL TATE of
PokerStars, RAYMOND BITAR and NELSON BURTNICK of Full Tilt Poker,
and SCOTT TOM and BRENT BECKLEY of Absolute Poker, arranged for
the money received from U.S. gamblers to be disguised as payments
to hundreds of non-existent online merchants purporting to sell
merchandise such as jewelry and golf balls.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #199
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Re: Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

ub.com worked for me about a half hour ago and now it shows that FBI message. I'm sure the rest will do the same pretty soon.
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:21 PM   #200
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this is very ironic after DC has made it clear they are opening up a internet gambling site
Link?
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