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Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling Reuters: Full Tilt Poker, Pokerstars and Absolute Poker charged with illegal gambling

04-15-2011 , 01:54 PM
I'd love to see howard lederer's face right now
04-15-2011 , 01:54 PM
Google DNS is still working normally. My Droid/Verizon is getting the FBI warning. At first my DSL DNS got the FBI warning but when I switched back from Google DNS to default, it still landed on the normal page.
04-15-2011 , 01:54 PM
I'm getting the FBI notice when I go to the pages
04-15-2011 , 01:54 PM
"An arrest warrant in rem differs from a seizure order/warrant because it is issued after the filing of the civil forfeiture action by the court. Once issued and served, the property is either actually or constructively seizued, thereafter vesting the court with in rem juristidiction over the res.

There is no requirement that the magistrate conduct a probable cause hearing before issuing the arrest warrant in rem, as it is merely a ministerial duty that may be performed by a clerk.

However, the use of the arrest warrant in rem has limited applicability in state forfeiture practice, as only two states authorize its use in their state forfeiture procedure."

source

and this...

"Advantages of civil in rem forfeiture include immediate possession of the property. The law enforcement agency obtains actual or constructive possession of the property and retains custody on behalf of the court pending the resolution of the forfeiture action. There is no criminal conviction requirement, and the lower civil burden of proof applies. Hearsay evidance may be used to establish probable cause."
04-15-2011 , 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lew189
This is BS. The whois info has not changed. Late April Fools joke?
This is not BS and you are wrong.

The domain level information has changed. Those that are saying this is just propagation delays are 100% correct.

It'll be interesting to see if it affects client software at some point, assuming they would be using these domain names for resolution.
04-15-2011 , 01:55 PM
This is not a joke.

I remember a site also being confiscated by the FBI recently -- can't remember the name of it, but it was one that streamed TV shows, pay-per-view events, etc.

It had the exact same message as this one. And several online news outlets reported it indeed was taken over by the feds.
04-15-2011 , 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lew189
This is BS. The whois info has not changed. Late April Fools joke?
How many times does it have to be repeated?? It takes time!
04-15-2011 , 01:55 PM
I don't have any money on these sites but I went to FT to test the cashier. I can't connect when I select "withdraw" - I get an error message saying they can't establish a secure connection.

I assume the site is getting crushed by panicked withdrawal requests?
04-15-2011 , 01:56 PM
WTF I CAN'T withdraw MY MONEY !!!!
04-15-2011 , 01:56 PM
In California, both working fine here.
04-15-2011 , 01:56 PM
stars works for me but not ft. im in ireland
04-15-2011 , 01:57 PM
I just checked the DNS settings for the 2 sites working for me (PS and FT). Pokerstars.com has a 1 hour refresh rate, meaning ISPs can cache the result for up to an hour before they go get the updated record. Fulltilt has a 3 hour refresh rate.

So if it is still working for you, it will probably stop soon.

But I guess it depends on how they seized the domains. Some (most) of the .com root DNS servers are in the USA, but I think some are in Europe. I don't know if the FBI was able to change the DNS settings on all the .com root servers, or just the ones in the USA.
04-15-2011 , 01:57 PM
Can you guys name your State with a report of whether or not you are getting the FBI warning?

I'm in CA, and it looks fine... WHICH IT ****ING SHOULD BE BECAUSE POKER IS LEGAL HERE!!
04-15-2011 , 01:57 PM
Can someone withdraw money from full tilt
04-15-2011 , 01:57 PM
http://twitter.com/CNBC

Three Largest Internet Poker Companies Charged With Fraud, Illegal Gambling - Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker, & Absolute Poker - Charged
less than 10 seconds ago via Seesmic Desktop
04-15-2011 , 01:58 PM
Looking at PokerStars' network status tool - seems like they use IPs rather than domain names so the client should still work.
04-15-2011 , 01:58 PM
both work fine for me. chitown here.
04-15-2011 , 01:58 PM
A traceroute to UB from where I am: (I removed hops 1 2 and 3). It traces directly to washington... So yeah def not a hoax or w/e.

traceroute to ub.com (50.17.223.71), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets

4 107.14.19.28 (107.14.19.28) 32.891 ms 65.186 ms 32.549 ms

5 ae-0-0.pr0.chi10.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.153) 26.259 ms 24.869 ms 25.273 ms

6 xe-10-2-0.edge2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.59.28.109) 42.308 ms 39.449 ms 39.716 ms

7 vlan52.ebr2.Chicago2.Level3.net (4.69.138.190) 34.328 ms 36.630 ms 35.634 ms

8 ae-6-6.ebr2.Washington12.Level3.net (4.69.148.145) 111.224 ms 36.034 ms 34.651 ms

9 ae-5-5.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.143.221) 34.990 ms 36.047 ms 39.327 ms

10 ae-72-72.csw2.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.134.150) 40.435 ms 42.002 ms 40.548 ms

11 ae-2-70.edge3.Washington1.Level3.net (4.69.149.81) 36.256 ms 166.978 ms 36.719 ms

12 * * * Request timed out.
04-15-2011 , 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by knef
Stop saying "Works for me in [placename]" !
But... Brawndo has electrolytes. It's what plants crave!
04-15-2011 , 01:58 PM
how can they confiscate the sites? isnt stars based out of the Isle of man and and international website?
04-15-2011 , 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Number1Hater
both work fine for me. chitown here.
try ub.com
04-15-2011 , 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DesperadoGM
how can they confiscate the sites? isnt stars based out of the Isle of man and and international website?
Domain registries for .com (and several other TLDs) are located in the US. If they don't like a site, it's gone. Same happened to sports streaming sites and torrent trackers. The short-term solution for the sites is to move to other, non-US-based TLDs. However, it seems like they are officially being charged:

http://twitter.com/#!/CNBC
Quote:
CNBC



Three Largest Internet Poker Companies Charged With Fraud, Illegal Gambling - Pokerstars, Full Tilt Poker, & Absolute Poker - Charged
04-15-2011 , 02:00 PM
GG everyone. Would not like to be a part of team full tilt or pstars right now. Imagine they will all be facing some hefty charges.
04-15-2011 , 02:00 PM
Both work fine here also (Florida)
04-15-2011 , 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by coolnout
try ub.com
works fine.

      
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