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Old 01-14-2008, 12:39 PM   #426
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all the photoshops. Just soooo upset I have no popcorn.


And for heaven's sake someone tell Brandi about this thread.
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Old 01-14-2008, 12:40 PM   #427
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this story stinks to the high heavens:

for 134142th time OP: how did you afford to give her 6 figures when you're working as a pit boss and when you claimed penury in the last Brandi thread?
Skimming for the mob, obviously.
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Don't really know much about all the drama with this girl but just goggled her coz I thought she might at least fit (good looking) turns out she aint. She is hangin imo so she sounds like even more of a loser.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:02 PM   #429
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She was stripping at Spheriment Rhino and had just lost her entire net worth at the Bellagio. I approached her and we started talking.
A strippers job is to make men think that she is attracted to them so they will give her lots of $$$ so when her looks fade post 30, she has enough to get by on.

Strippers dont have real relationships because no self respecting man would date a girl who went to work daily at a place like that.

I'm amazed you didnt realize that. I'm really amazed that you live in Las Vegas and didnt realize that.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:04 PM   #430
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And for heaven's sake someone tell Brandi about this thread.
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For those who are looking for something interesting, come back later.
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Old 01-14-2008, 01:18 PM   #432
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For those who are looking for something interesting, come back later.
Could have used this a few pages back.
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Not sure about this thread specifically...but the public mockery and humiliation in general may get her there and this thread could certainly be party of it.

Don't know much about suicide and those who dramatically 'try' to kill themselves for some sort of attention or whatever but continually 'fail'...but I do think that many of those who do eventually 'successfully' commit suicide had a few attempts beforehand.
If Brandi 'succeeded' on a future try I certainly would not be surprised. Not that I'm in the least hoping for that to happen. While many on here enjoy the drama I do believe that people who know her...and even some like me who don't...truly hope she gets real help and stops doing these things to herself not to mention the people around her.

One thing you need to realize is people of a similar bent are unlikely candidates for actual suicide because they are so self-centered and narcisstic. IE they are too important to themselves to kill. I can't speak to the person in question here, except to say they are very similar to several people I know... who I know are unlikely for suicide simply because of their love of themselves. That is what fuels them.
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Strippers dont have real relationships because no self respecting man would date a girl who went to work daily at a place like that.

Why not?
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I saw her making out pretty heavily with Carlos Mortenson a few times this summer, and one time what appeared to be a more than friendly kiss with David Levi...
So when was she dating Brandon?
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There are herds of damsels in distress in the gambling joints all over the world. The reason we write about Brandi is that she is a good con artist that has made some good scores and pitched it off.

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This really cuts to the root of why people get so up in arms and portray Brandi as the personification of evil. She's not any more 'evil' than your average con-man (perhaps even your average person, but that's getting of on a tangent) she's just smarter and more charming and in turn better at it.

Like Arnold_O and his pop psychology, lamenting Brandi playing hi-stakes stud and commenting that he can't 'turn tricks' to get steaked. Self-righteousness is as easy as **** when you don't and never will have any power to corrupt you.
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Could have used this a few hours ago.
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This really cuts to the root of why people get so up in arms and portray Brandi as the personification of evil. She's not any more 'evil' than your average con-man (perhaps even your average person, but that's getting of on a tangent) she's just smarter and more charming and in turn better at it.

You could argue that she should have kept a low profile, but then again, maybe the fact that she doesn't is just pure genius and a lot of people don't realise that yet ...
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We definitely need some more MSPAINTs with billy goats
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This really cuts to the root of why people get so up in arms and portray Brandi as the personification of evil. She's not any more 'evil' than your average con-man (perhaps even your average person, but that's getting of on a tangent) she's just smarter and more charming and in turn better at it.

Like Arnold_O and his pop psychology, lamenting Brandi playing hi-stakes stud and commenting that he can't 'turn tricks' to get steaked. Self-righteousness is as easy as **** when you don't and never will have any power to corrupt you.

i think it's because people don't like dishonesty from others. the whole criminal class costs society billions, and they destroy countless lives.

you make it sound like it's an honor to abuse another person if in position. i don't believe it is.
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A strippers job is to make men think that she is attracted to them so they will give her lots of $$$ so when her looks fade post 30, she has enough to get by on.

Strippers dont have real relationships because no self respecting man would date a girl who went to work daily at a place like that.

I'm amazed you didnt realize that. I'm really amazed that you live in Las Vegas and didnt realize that.
Funny, One of these guys currently hosts the Price is Right.
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half the posts in this thread should be deleted, they're that stupid

as for all this 'con man' stuff, we have an image, mostly from films, of a con man as being a rational person looking to get what he or she can off a mark - but brandi is clearly completely crazy, and while she's manipulative, i don't think she's exactly laughing about her hustles while using her ivory backscratcher in her palace made of gold
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A strippers job is to make men think that she is attracted to them so they will give her lots of $$$ so when her looks fade post 30, she has enough to get by on.

Strippers dont have real relationships because no self respecting man would date a girl who went to work daily at a place like that.

I'm amazed you didnt realize that. I'm really amazed that you live in Las Vegas and didnt realize that.
I'm amazed at YOUR ignorance. Have you ever actually talked to strippers, at more than a superficial level?

To some % of strippers, it's just a damn job, and some % of men understand that, and there's no reason a "real" relationship can't form in that situation.

Yes, I know of several. No, it's not me.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:24 PM   #444
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There have always been con artists and angle shooters around poker. It is good that Brandi put a beat on pimp/Brandon. That's her job. She's a con, he's a mark, like Newhizzle but with less class.
I think most people are having issue with the fact that there are intellectual cons and emotional cons. We can respect the intellectual ones, i.e. getting outsmarted via elaborate cheating setups, etc.

But emotional cons perpetrated by those such as Brandi truly show our weaknesses as men. Those hit the hardest, as we're least equipped to deal with them well.
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One thing you need to realize is people of a similar bent are unlikely candidates for actual suicide because they are so self-centered and narcisstic. IE they are too important to themselves to kill. I can't speak to the person in question here, except to say they are very similar to several people I know... who I know are unlikely for suicide simply because of their love of themselves. That is what fuels them.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:35 PM   #446
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Someone at BangBros needs to give Brandi a call. They'll surely have work for her.
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I can't believe I read the whole thing! I'm so on tilt at myself.
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Old 01-14-2008, 02:43 PM   #448
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I'm amazed at YOUR ignorance. Have you ever actually talked to strippers, at more than a superficial level?

To some % of strippers, it's just a damn job, and some % of men understand that, and there's no reason a "real" relationship can't form in that situation.

Yes, I know of several. No, it's not me.
Some % being a very low number. Most of these girls grew up in messed up households, are currently on drugs and/or around girls who are on drugs, their job is essentially to use their bodies to extort money from men, they have lost most of the real relationships in their lives, they have no future once they cant strip anymore.

Think about it. You have a routine fight with your girl then she leaves to go flirt with guys and grind on them for $20 / song. Don't know anyone with self-respect that could put up with that for long. Unless they were a messed up dirtbag themselves.

And dont get me wrong. I love a good pair of tits in my face. I'm just making an OBVIOUS point here.
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i seriously went downstairs and made popcorn halfway through reading this thread. I didn't even realize i did it until i saw another post that said grabs popcorn.

subliminal messaging ftw
Damn, you have finally discovered the truth. This entire thread is a subliminal ruse by Orville Redenbacher. Do you see it now. Orville Redenbacker = Brandi Hawbacher.
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Scanning over this thread, I realize there many questions that have been asked that I failed to answer or expand on. I will try to answer those I can.

I was working as a pitboss basically part time in a very hip, young oriented casino when I met Brandi. Basically three days a week. I enjoyed the job and the people I interacted with. It was not by any means the main source of where my income was derived. Regardless of what my personal finances consist of or where they came from, that is irrelevant. Brandi never knew the full scope of my financial status.

I have talked with both Newhouse and Neverwin. They could both collaborate most details of my story by posting on here as they have done before, but there really isnt anything they could say that hasn't been said already. Mark was victimized as well but I think he has accepted the fact that he is never going to be paid by Brandi.

I only state this because it was public knowlege. Brandi herself posted this on this forum as well as a sexually detailed more specific post about her relationship with Carlos Mortensen on neverwinpoker. They dated briefly for a month or so at the end of 2006. According to Brandi's version to me, he had other relationships going on at the time as well and eventually cut things off with her.

My point again here wasn't to hurt Brandi. I am angry but not bitter. I realized after she stole from me that I would be honest and not cover up anymore of her lies.

Since my OP on here yesterday, I have received private messages from 3 people unknown to me before then. They all told me a story (obviously to a way lesser degree) of running into Brandi at some point during the last 5 years (yes, she lived on and off in vegas since 2002) and being stolen from or conned by her.

I know the majority of the world see's everything in black and white. There is a pretty girl. Guy tries to help pretty girl with only intention of getting laid. Maybe the majority of people think like that. But there are some people in this world that see a situation like this and try to do something good out of compassion. An unfortunate side effect is these type of people get burned too.


When she came back to vegas before the world series (we had broken up in april again for a few weeks), she arrived in Las Vegas without a penny to her name. According to Brandi, David took her downtown to get and pay for a new sheriffs card so she could dance at the Rhino. Again, this is according to Brandi.

I had some CD's that she had overheard me talking about with a financial advisor over the phone. She had no idea what a CD was. I explained it to her. She then went on one of the internet poker shows (mandalay bay) and told that tale. She made me beg no to reveal it to anyone. I basically never did except to my close friends that knew the truth already. I even told her it made no sense how she explained it. People dont purchase certificates of deposit for a month.



After she got her sheriffs card, she danced at the rhino at the beginning of the world series but was only making a couple hundred dollars each night.

And I know for most of you, if would make for better reading if Brandi responded but I dont see that happening. What is she going to say? I have a small penis. I am a liar. She never stole. She was a victim.
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