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Do you think (personally) the FTP proletariat will ever get their money back?

How does today's statement by the DOJ change your views, and friendship, with Howard, Chris, and even Ivey?

And, when are you signing with Stars? (LOL.......or are you just completely burned out with online poker at this point?).

Thanks for giving us the time to ask you questions. It gives a great levity to the collective "oh $hit" we feel about the state of our FTP bankrolls today.

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09-20-2011 , 06:18 PM

#52

boostfiend

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Do you honestly think their will be jailtime assessed or just fines?

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09-20-2011 , 06:19 PM

#53

durrrr

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Originally Posted by 4winds

How much influence on the "bad decision" making did Lederer/Ferguson have? or were they just basically along for the ride while banking millions?

idk. it should've been a lot but idk if it was. they were both on the board, and definitely both couldve changed the company if they knew about the hole. im inclined to believe they must've found out before april 15th.

together id think they couldve gotten any changes they wanted done to ftp or its structure

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09-20-2011 , 06:19 PM

#54

pokerstudAA

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Durrrr -

How much money in total has FTP (or related entities) paid you for being on Team FTP (or friend or w/e)?

Did you receive an ownership % in any FTP entities?

Did you get paid directly through TILTWARE, LLC? or you FTP account?

Assuming all US based FTP owners/players got paid through TITLWARE, LLC - can you provide information about who was the 23 owners of the company?

Thanks for being so open with the community.

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09-20-2011 , 06:19 PM

#55

CrazyNL

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durrrr can you use an avatar? so it is easier to follow you. if not its ok ldo

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09-20-2011 , 06:19 PM

#56

Joe Tall

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Hi Tom,

Do you know of any of the top tier players, (not in ownership) that received bankroll money from Full Tilt post Black Friday?

Thanks for doing this,
Joe

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09-20-2011 , 06:20 PM

#57

lax411

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will howard get locked the **** up?

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09-20-2011 , 06:20 PM

#58

durrrr

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Originally Posted by DublingUp

What do you make of the Justice departments accusation that FTP was a Ponzi Scheme for quite a long time?

thats ridiculous wording by them and not true. a ponzi scheme doesnt have a huge source of income. there were many things about ftp in 2011 that were like a ponzi scheme, but ponzi's schemes dont make tens of millions of dollars a year.

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09-20-2011 , 06:20 PM

#59

durrrr

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Originally Posted by Joe Tall

Hi Tom,

Do you know of any of the top tier players, (not in ownership) that received bankroll money from Full Tilt post Black Friday?

Thanks for doing this,
Joe

i really hope its none.

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09-20-2011 , 06:21 PM

#60

HeavyTrev

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You should link the sticky in OP and people should read the OP in that sticky IMO

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09-20-2011 , 06:21 PM

#61

PostflopNoob

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Durrrr, would you suggest there is still at least a glimmer of hope to get our money back?

I mean, what comes next? FTP is torn apart, no possible investor? Lederer/Ferguson/Bitar taking money out of their pockets?

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09-20-2011 , 06:21 PM

#62

JerryGarcia

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Are you still friends with Ivey?
Is he planning on showing his face again?

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09-20-2011 , 06:21 PM

#63

Pls try to bluf

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For a successful player as part of team ft to step up like this compared to one of the owners is absurd. Much respect for dwan

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09-20-2011 , 06:22 PM

#64

durrrr

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Originally Posted by pokerstudAA

didnt have ownership in any ftp entities. pretty sure doj has way more complete info on ownership than i do. i'd need to go back and check exactly how much i was paid, but i assume i can find that with my agents help. its over 1m (but not by too much)

edit: jus put it in ftp account, and i was supposed to play every month.

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09-20-2011 , 06:22 PM

#65

hussainsajwani

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If ftp were to pay and come back in europe or else where, would u still represent them if they ask u to stay on the pro team?

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09-20-2011 , 06:23 PM

#66

dag2

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Durrr, Can you post in PDF format a copy of your contract with Full Tilt?

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09-20-2011 , 06:23 PM

#67

Zophar

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In hindsight, do you feel people in the company were aware of Black Friday prior to it happening? Like 10-14 days prior. I ask as there were long term, US based Tilters who suddenly "resigned" during this 2 week window prior to BF.

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09-20-2011 , 06:23 PM

#68

DublingUp

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Originally Posted by durrrr

thanks for answsering the ?, mad respect for doing what your doing. Good luck through this mess.

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09-20-2011 , 06:23 PM

#69

mg0698

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Your personal opinion , Do you believe the players will ever receive any of there funds?

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09-20-2011 , 06:23 PM

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SGT RJ

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Just as an FYI: Durr answered some questions in another thread. All of those answers (with quotes questions) have been added to the locked thread at the top of NVG.

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09-20-2011 , 06:24 PM

#71

ThatDutchGuy

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Does Full Tilt owe you money?

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09-20-2011 , 06:24 PM

#72

hobiejuan1

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Tom were you surprised that Howard turned out to be such a scumbag?

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09-20-2011 , 06:25 PM

#73

durrrr

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Originally Posted by JerryGarcia

Are you still friends with Ivey?
Is he planning on showing his face again?

yes, i think he was misled and misguided- but at the time i (and many others) agreed with his actions, and i cant blame him for being misled. i think his reasoning was good (but wrong) and i think his intentions were good.

i might be a bit biased about this b/c i really like the guy, so theres a small chance im being blinded and hes a huge scumbag or w/e, but i really think hes a good dude.

only way he wouldnt show his face is if im wrong about the above.

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09-20-2011 , 06:25 PM

#74

thatpfunk

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did ray, howard, and chris turn down an offer to sell post BF? do you know their reasons for turning it down? is that why ivey sued?

appreciate your time and honesty in all this mess.