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11-01-2015 , 01:02 PM

#151

Raised

stranger

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/c...e-158887.shtml

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11-01-2015 , 01:03 PM

#152

V1p13

newbie

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 24

ZeeJustin, sadly but true =\

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11-01-2015 , 01:04 PM

#153

IveGotUrOuts

old hand

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,407

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Originally Posted by Raised

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/c...e-158887.shtml

Can someone post some screenshots or w/e? Cant visit this site since I live in a .EU country or atleast my country bans it.

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11-01-2015 , 01:07 PM

#154

Protential

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 12,460

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Originally Posted by Kevmath

Confirmation by Eric Hollreiser:

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/c...e-158887.shtml

****ing ****.

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11-01-2015 , 01:11 PM

#155

Mrtrebus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,962

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Originally Posted by ZeeJustin

November 1st, 2015: the day PokerStars formally announced they no longer care about their customers.

You must be mistaken because he clearly states this:

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Originally Posted by Eric Hollreiser

We are confident that these changes will improve the playing experience for all PokerStars players

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11-01-2015 , 01:12 PM

#156

sandr1x

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 524

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Originally Posted by IveGotUrOuts

Can someone post some screenshots or w/e? Cant visit this site since I live in a .EU country or atleast my country bans it.

Spoiler:

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11-01-2015 , 01:13 PM

#157

dd777

newbie

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 26

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Originally Posted by IveGotUrOuts

Can someone post some screenshots or w/e? Cant visit this site since I live in a .EU country or atleast my country bans it.

screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/kvIfait.jpg

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11-01-2015 , 01:14 PM

#158

ProbablyLurking

enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 56

good. learn poker mass tabling clown****s.

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11-01-2015 , 01:15 PM

#159

Bakes

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 15,980

Cristiano and Neymar Jr. And in conclusion, Cristiano and Neymar Jr. thanks all

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11-01-2015 , 01:18 PM

#160

pablito_21

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,872

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(...) it shouldn't be about clicking a button because harvested stats tell you to. For this reason, we are on a path to eliminate many of these technological advantages that are used by a minority of players.
(...)
Our intention is to expand these restrictions through major changes within our own software that we will communicate in more detail through 2016. PokerStars wants to offer fun, fair and competitive games of poker globally. These changes aim to help us achieve that goal.

This seems to hint at stars going the Unibet way, geared towards recreational players (no HUDs / HHs, name changes, ...).

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11-01-2015 , 01:18 PM

#161

GazzyB123

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 5,968

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11-01-2015 , 01:19 PM

#162

cilderr

adept

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 774

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Originally Posted by ProbablyLurking

good. learn poker mass tabling clown****s.

you **** ignorant pos

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11-01-2015 , 01:19 PM

#163

jas

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 210

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• No VPPs for pot-limit and no-limit games with blinds of $5-$10+, 8-game $10-$20+, and other limit games with blinds of $10-$15+. This change is implemented due to high transaction costs and operation costs of monitoring these games.

costs including ignoring reports , in october 2014, of bots which took 4million dollars out of midstakes plo

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11-01-2015 , 01:25 PM

#164

yahoo123

newbie

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 15

Since the players are taking a hit because of the cost of transacton fees, be sure to make as many transactions as needed to get your balances off. Daily min cash outs from every SNE/High stakes player may make them aware of how wrong they are.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with overpaying the "Pros" that's never happened before(sarcasm)

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11-01-2015 , 01:29 PM

#165

GentlemanJack

adept

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 949

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Originally Posted by Bakes

Cristiano and Neymar Jr. And in conclusion, Cristiano and Neymar Jr. thanks all

thats a pretty damn good summary of Eric's post . . .

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11-01-2015 , 01:29 PM

#166

SSKS

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,468

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Originally Posted by ZeeJustin

November 1st, 2015: the day PokerStars formally announced they no longer care about their customers.

?

Removing hud = not care?

Sounds like good news for the recs to play again and bring the ecosystem in

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11-01-2015 , 01:32 PM

#167

sandr1x

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 524

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-club-1568814/

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11-01-2015 , 01:34 PM

#168

maslalo

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 46

RIP stars. Knew this day would come, had my bags packed.

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11-01-2015 , 01:34 PM

#169

kelnel

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,718

im cashing out 75% of my balance, starting now.

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11-01-2015 , 01:38 PM

#170

maslalo

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 46

As for a platform similar to chess, it won't ever happen because there is a financial element present. This in turn needs security and other investments.

If the rake was set to cover operating expenses and security, then we would truly be all competing on the same level where there is no rakeback grinders, just winners and losers.

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11-01-2015 , 01:39 PM

#171

scroosko

adept

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,176

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Originally Posted by kelnel

im cashing out 75% of my balance, starting now.

why not cash out 100%? you will still play and so will 95% of regs.

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11-01-2015 , 01:48 PM

#172

GentlemanJack

adept

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 949

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Originally Posted by maslalo

Well sure, of course there would be some rake to cover expenses. But what if thats all it covered and nothing beyond that? I agree with your conclusion that it would then be about "pure" poker. So why wouldn't that model work?

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11-01-2015 , 01:49 PM

#173

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,457

puke inducing stuff

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11-01-2015 , 01:54 PM

#174

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,764

seems like locking the door after the horse has bolted, given that the primary reason why stars' games are so terrible is the high levels of RB that sn/sne provide and the style of play that ensues as a result of people chasing it

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11-01-2015 , 01:57 PM

#175

Clayton

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Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 32,226

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Originally Posted by sixfour

All of those guys now have to play live poker or get jobs. Now you'd say great, less rb grinder nits. But I would say the ones who survive are even better at fleecing the fish and are even better at table selecting.

Now with zero rb at higher stakes, those same people have to be even better at table selection.

So I think the new equilibrium is more donkament liquidity in the short term, SNGs die, and cash game liquidity dries up a fair amount since nobody has the financial incentive to start tables.

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