Is PLO the new cadillac of poker? - Poker News

It seems as if though all the top online players have moved on to PLO. Is playing PLO more +EV then Holdem. Nosebleed NL have pratically dried up on Full Tilt while the PLO games are heavy in traffic.

Is PLO the future of poker?

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06-24-2008 , 11:03 AM

frumpus

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PLO is the Cooper Mini of poker.

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06-24-2008 , 11:06 AM

nanamar05

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06-24-2008 , 11:08 AM

Vega33

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Originally Posted by nanamar05

I've heard it said that more luck is involved in PLO than hold em since the big implied odds in PLO encourage more players to see the flop. I read a PLO book once which said that a top player in both PLO and hold em will win a higher percentage of the time in hold em than PLO since the latter is more of a "drawing game." The author added, however, that the top player would win more money on the fewer occasions that he won in PLO due to the bigger pots. Not sure if that's true, but that's what the book said.

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06-24-2008 , 11:09 AM

Bulletproof Monk

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it is the toyota prius imo

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06-24-2008 , 11:11 AM

phishguy

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No.
Still not even close to the traffic hold em gets.

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06-24-2008 , 11:11 AM

vetiver

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PLO is so high-variance and edgeless that the rake makes it the EV-equivalent of playing a pit game. Unless you're interested in pure gamble (I recommend potting and repotting and getting every omaha hand allin preflop, as at least dead blind money will offset some house advantage), I'd stay away from PLO.

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06-24-2008 , 11:13 AM

spike420211

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As opposed to draw, the Ford Pinto of all poker games

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06-24-2008 , 11:14 AM

Daddy Warbucks

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"He meant Lexus, but he ain't know it!"

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06-24-2008 , 11:15 AM

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frumpus

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Originally Posted by spike420211

As opposed to draw, the Ford Pinto of all poker games

Then what is Razz? Moped?

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06-24-2008 , 11:24 AM

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spike420211

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Originally Posted by frumpus

Then what is Razz? Moped?

The state of New Jersey seems 2 think so...

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06-24-2008 , 11:32 AM

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bones

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Whatever car you're most likely to die in, that's PLO

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06-24-2008 , 11:39 AM

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shipit2herbert

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Originally Posted by bones

Whatever car you're most likely to die in, that's PLO

I lol'ed. Playing PLO is like driving on the Autobahn in a Ferrari during a rainstorm.

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06-24-2008 , 11:46 AM

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frumpus

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Originally Posted by bones

Whatever car you're most likely to die in, that's PLO

Ahh, the Corsair. Unsafe at any speed.

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06-24-2008 , 11:52 AM

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dino1980

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I've heard a few players say NLHE is an art form, whereas PLO is more of a science. In that in PLO there's usually one 'correct' move, but in NLHE you can usually make arguements for calling, folding or raising in any one given spot.

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06-24-2008 , 11:53 AM

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frumpus

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NLHE is an intermingling of science and art. PLO is a cluster****

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06-24-2008 , 11:54 AM

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cavalucho

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NLH is the cadillac of poker.

PLO is the Rolls-Royce of poker.

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06-24-2008 , 11:56 AM

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iraise44

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Originally Posted by bones

Whatever car you're most likely to die in, that's PLO

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06-24-2008 , 12:03 PM

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a5wantinga10

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afaik Cadillac is not a great brand of car lol. so it's not hard to top.

PLO is def the Ferrari or Lambo - so wild and exciting.

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06-24-2008 , 12:17 PM

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elgreenhornet

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whales, even the ones who have played and studied a lot, don't want to play the top guys in a game where they will get raped unless they run hot.
at least in omaha they have a chance of winning on any given night

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06-24-2008 , 12:20 PM

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shanesinnott

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Originally Posted by dino1980

So whats the arguement for folding AA heads up on the button?

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06-24-2008 , 12:22 PM

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SleeveOfWizard

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To who ever said Razz was the moped, I think a more appropriate automotive analogy for the game is the PT Cruiser or the Aztek...

They're both uuuugly...

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06-24-2008 , 12:27 PM

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DLizzle

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a good player can obtain a higher winrate in plo than in holdem

personally the reason i play it and one reason i think the top players play it is because the strategy isn't as discussed, there is still a lot the masses don't know even about somewhat basic plo concepts. it is fun and exciting to think about and 'discover' concepts for yourself that every player out there can't watch in a training video.

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06-24-2008 , 12:28 PM

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GotQuads

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Preflop you can never make a (big) mistake, postflop it's also hard to have a significant edge against semi-competent players.

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06-24-2008 , 12:33 PM

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SleeveOfWizard

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Originally Posted by shanesinnott

So whats the arguement for folding AA heads up on the button?

You have an M of less than 1 in the bubble of a massive satellite with 4 other opponents having to go all-in blind before the next blind reaches you. Snap-fold AA there.

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