OP may have good intentions but the WSOP is just as complicit. Where were they all along the path of UB and FTP? They had no problem with the wild west offshore online poker was. As long as Obama didn't screw with it.

No, I'm not a 9th grader and I apologize for putting words in your post. Guess I'm just tilted from reading all these NVGtard posts by people who refuse to look at the bigger picture.

I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event

I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP even

Yeah sure give money to the Venetian when their owner has come out against online poker....

I want my money back just like you guys but jeez

Yes he does, not sure why the OP would want us to go play at his joint?

" I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event"

id sign that petition and on top of that, beat them all up one after the other, just need my fist


I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event"

"I don't want a debate. I just want people to do what I say. I would appreciate mods deleting every post that disagrees with anything that I, Sparky, have posted."

Yeah. GG.

i would sign if it was excluding bg1, otherwise no way jose

While seeing this same statement over and over is just... unbelievably cute, isn't it a bit funny that the OP who was so concerned about clutter didn't just make a damned poll? Especially when talking about how this is a thread to "stand up and be counted." Guess he'd rather do the counting himself.

As much I agree with this, I really want to see some big names in 1mill event. So sorry I can't agree to this.

No comment on the estimate, but I think it's pretty on point when it comes to the futility of this thread, idea.

I like the motivation behind the idea but I agree with those that think it is misguided.

I would absolutely love it if Jack Effel / WSOP came out and decided that all FTP pros / shareholders were persona non grata (just like Russ Hamilton). And I wish that more people realized that Seidel, Gus, Harman, Barry, Flack, etc AREN'T entirely blameless. They're not Bitar-culpable. And probably not Lederer/Fergeson/Furst-culpable. But their level of degree of blame / responsibility is not zero and their silence on it all is shameful. I'd love to see the WSOP make a statement and bar them from WSOP this year as a show of support for those who had funds stolen from us.

But this petition is a dumb idea.

And so is a boycott of WSOP in favor of Venetian DS.

And so is your demand that no discussion take place here.

I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event

cant believe these ftp threads just keep on getting stupider

wait, is russ hamilton banned from wsop? i know hes banned from mgm lv now

Only the principles of those companies that owe players directly should be liable of any kind of consequence.

I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event

Yea just black ball people, that aren't culpable, just for GP, in order to make a statement.

Whether they knew at the time that the dividends they received were stolen from players pockets or not is irrelevant, the moment it became clear that the money they were given was stolen each and every one of them should have come forward and offered to repay every cent they still have in their possession.




This is very wrong. If anyone received divdends in good faith and not knowing that the company didn t have the money, then they are not at fault. The law very clearly ditactes that improperly issued dividends are the fault of the person(s) that issued them. Aswell, there are legal recourses to go after the persons that were invloved in having such dividends issued. This subject has been beat to death but the law is very clear on it.

This is not a legal site, just good FYI. A cut and paste

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedicti...Corporate+Veil

Dividends A dividend is a payment to shareholders, in proportion to their holdings, of current or past earnings or profits, usually on a regular and periodic basis. Directors determine whether to issue dividends. A dividend can take the form of cash, property, or additional shares. Shareholders have the right to force payment of a dividend, but they usually succeed only if the directors abused their discretion.

Restrictions on the distribution of dividends can be found in the articles of incorporation and in statutes, which seek to ensure that the dividends come out of current and past earnings. Directors who vote for illegal dividends can be held personally liable to the corporation. In addition, a corporation's creditors often will contractually restrict the corporation's power to make distributions

Any guess as to what percentage of the people "signing" this petition have ever set foot in the Rio during WSOP time? What percentage have ever bought into a WSOP tournament? How about played a live tournament with > $500 buyin of any kind?

I'd guess a few have. The majority? I'm doubtful.

I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event.

Personally, I would go for a lifetime ban. And it's a lot more humane and legal than forming a lynch mob. :-)

" I hereby state that unless all FTP shareholders and those who currently owe money to FTP and have not signed a letter of intent to repay are banned from all WSOP events this year then I will not participate in any WSOP event"