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07-29-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hankypankyAA
Laundering drug money and sex slave trade money isn't the type of thing a man like you needs to be involved in even if it's indirectly. If i were you i'd forget i knew any of these guys in a hurry, the extent of shadiness of these guys goes far deeper than this.
Can you provide ANYTHING that mentions Phua in regards to drugs and sex slave trade?

Ridiculous assumption because one FBI agent told one reporter there is a 14k triad link.
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07-29-2014 , 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
Can you provide ANYTHING that mentions Phua in regards to drugs and sex slave trade?

Ridiculous assumption because one FBI agent told one reporter there is a 14k triad link.
i'm not saying he's involved directly in the sex trade or w/e but i think its a much more ridic assumption to assume one of the richest men in china is running an underground betting operation taking bets up to 50mil and ISN'T mobbed up in some way.
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07-30-2014 , 12:57 AM
Some more info for those of you that are interested:

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/arti...paul-phua-bail
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07-30-2014 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Munchkins Hero
Dr Hartman delivered my son in 2005!

His wife, whos hot, worked in his office, and I have to say, her nurses outifts were absolutely fantastic....similar to outfits worn at LS partys....
How's little Nate doing, must be 9 years old by now?
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07-30-2014 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperDuperTilt
This story is going to have legs for quite a while. So, typical of the police to use the immigration angle to jail someone. I hope he's paid off the right people in China if he gets deported.
My understanding is that he should only get deported to China/Macau if they can win an extradition case against him (do they even have a treaty?). He would normally just be seen onto a plane out of the US to anywhere he bought a ticket to (and even if it had to be his country of citizenship that is Malaysia.)
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07-30-2014 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by rockrock
Take bets from Americans, go to jail. Not exactly a whodunit here.
If any of this was true then the bets would probably be coming from mainland Chinese who afaik cannot legally gamble at all, and from HK residents who can only bet sports with the jockey club monopoly, which presumably has lol vig.
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07-30-2014 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
If any of this was true then the bets would probably be coming from mainland Chinese who afaik cannot legally gamble at all, and from HK residents who can only bet sports with the jockey club monopoly, which presumably has lol vig.
HKJC charges 10%-20% vig and still makes billions every year, no wonder offshore websites flourish. Mainlanders can legally gamble through the China Sports Lottery but it probably also has a sick vig.
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07-30-2014 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
Can you provide ANYTHING that mentions Phua in regards to drugs and sex slave trade?

Ridiculous assumption because one FBI agent told one reporter there is a 14k triad link.
Oh wait of course... a guy who takes 350 million dollars in illegal sports betting bets would never ever do anything else illegal, silly me, he's just a hard working entrepreneur. Or maybe, just maybe you're being just a tad bit naive thinking that he's not involved in one of the triads (mafia).

Honestly i could really care less, but i think my advice to tom hall was very sound. I would not involve myself with people who are going to either be dead or in federal prison very soon. It will be one or the other, and if you don't believe that you're even more naive than gilligan.
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07-30-2014 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
i'm not saying he's involved directly in the sex trade or w/e but i think its a much more ridic assumption to assume one of the richest men in china is running an underground betting operation taking bets up to 50mil and ISN'T mobbed up in some way.
i'd say that about covers it lol.
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07-30-2014 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by hankypankyAA
Oh wait of course... a guy who takes 350 million dollars in illegal sports betting bets would never ever do anything else illegal, silly me, he's just a hard working entrepreneur. Or maybe, just maybe you're being just a tad bit naive thinking that he's not involved in one of the triads (mafia).

Honestly i could really care less, but i think my advice to tom hall was very sound. I would not involve myself with people who are going to either be dead or in federal prison very soon. It will be one or the other, and if you don't believe that you're even more naive than gilligan.
Thanks for the links.
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07-30-2014 , 10:36 AM
This article gives a timeline of the story....

http://www.bluff.com/news/ivey-robl-...ng-case-59320/
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07-30-2014 , 11:02 AM
lol at durrr being there when they were arrested. wtf
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07-30-2014 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Munchkins Hero
Dr Hartman delivered my son in 2005!

His wife, whos hot, worked in his office, and I have to say, her nurses outifts were absolutely fantastic....similar to outfits worn at LS partys....
the plot thickens
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07-30-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 12bigworm81
This article gives a timeline of the story....

http://www.bluff.com/news/ivey-robl-...ng-case-59320/

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On July 5, two FBI agents posing as technical support were allowed access to one of the villas and observed Phua with his computer open to ******, an online gambling/sports betting website.
It looks like this is what they used to get their warrant. I think it's pretty likely that the cops just made this up. They had probably some illegal NSA-type **** directed at these guys.

This whole story just reeks of a massive amount of bull**** on the part of the government. Billionaire businessmen whales get targeted in a casino because they requested an unusual amount of computer equipment. The FBI sends in undercovers, but they end up being restricted to the butler's quarters and get nothing. Then a week later they send in more undercovers who happen to see Phua sitting at his computer with a sports betting site on the screen. Search warrants and arrests follow.

Regardless of what Phua and co. did or didn't do, the government is full of **** on this.
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07-30-2014 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hankypankyAA
Oh wait of course... a guy who takes 350 million dollars in illegal sports betting bets would never ever do anything else illegal, silly me, he's just a hard working entrepreneur. Or maybe, just maybe you're being just a tad bit naive thinking that he's not involved in one of the triads (mafia).

Honestly i could really care less, but i think my advice to tom hall was very sound. I would not involve myself with people who are going to either be dead or in federal prison very soon. It will be one or the other, and if you don't believe that you're even more naive than gilligan.
I really wish you were trolling but unfortunately I think you are just an idiot that watches too many movies.

Do you actually have proof of the 350 in bets he allegedly took in or are you just repeating what you read online?

Do you actually have any proof that he is NOT a hard working entrepreneur or are you just making those assumptions ? Do you think everyone that plays high stakes poker or makes large wagers (allegedly) is connected to the mob? I guess Paul Newey is probably in the Triads too because he's rich and gambles.

What's laughable is that you think Tom Hall cares about your silly advice. Do you think he got to where he is today by taking advice from NVG? I highly doubt it. What's even more laughable is that you think anyone is going to be dead or in federal prison anytime soon. If Phua was actually connected to the Triads especially as a high ranking member as everyone claims, do you think he just signed up last month? He would been involved for probably most of his life and to think some stupid sports betting charge is going to be the end of him is laughable. Where to you come up with these ideas?
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07-30-2014 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Adebisi
It looks like this is what they used to get their warrant. I think it's pretty likely that the cops just made this up. They had probably some illegal NSA-type **** directed at these guys.

This whole story just reeks of a massive amount of bull**** on the part of the government. Billionaire businessmen whales get targeted in a casino because they requested an unusual amount of computer equipment. The FBI sends in undercovers, but they end up being restricted to the butler's quarters and get nothing. Then a week later they send in more undercovers who happen to see Phua sitting at his computer with a sports betting site on the screen. Search warrants and arrests follow.

Regardless of what Phua and co. did or didn't do, the government is full of **** on this.

This^^

If he was actually operating a wire room with ties to 14k he sure as hell would not be doing it from the US in a lv hotel.
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07-30-2014 , 01:05 PM
Also, anyone with criminal ties and an estimated net worth of 6.6 bil does not even come close to getting their hands dirty, they do not hang out in wire rooms and they do not come to the US at all even if he has diplomatic status. 99% likely he is completely legitimate and has to brush elbows with the criminal element just like everyone else who makes money in gaming. The FBI knows this.
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07-30-2014 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by riverboatking
i'm not saying he's involved directly in the sex trade or w/e but i think its a much more ridic assumption to assume one of the richest men in china is running an underground betting operation taking bets up to 50mil and ISN'T mobbed up in some way.
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Originally Posted by wet work
i'd say that about covers it lol.
+2
Great twitter RBK. I look forward to your annual NFL commentary and implosions.
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07-30-2014 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
I really wish you were trolling but unfortunately I think you are just an idiot that watches too many movies.

Do you actually have proof of the 350 in bets he allegedly took in or are you just repeating what you read online?

Do you actually have any proof that he is NOT a hard working entrepreneur or are you just making those assumptions ? Do you think everyone that plays high stakes poker or makes large wagers (allegedly) is connected to the mob? I guess Paul Newey is probably in the Triads too because he's rich and gambles.

What's laughable is that you think Tom Hall cares about your silly advice. Do you think he got to where he is today by taking advice from NVG? I highly doubt it. What's even more laughable is that you think anyone is going to be dead or in federal prison anytime soon. If Phua was actually connected to the Triads especially as a high ranking member as everyone claims, do you think he just signed up last month? He would been involved for probably most of his life and to think some stupid sports betting charge is going to be the end of him is laughable. Where to you come up with these ideas?
Just confirmed: HK Tom broke up with his former besties, citing a NVG post which helped him "see the light."
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07-30-2014 , 07:45 PM
I think its safe to say when paul phua got deported from macau they still would have a number off bets to cover & being a honest man would do so as quickly as possible, thats the trouble with getting ure operation interfered with u still gotta collect the $.
tbh the FBI were just following the case & when they arrived decided to take a closer look & they just don't-can't ask lol also theres an international operation ongoing with interpol regarding sports fixing that involves a lot off major players from asia so i guess there just helping out were ever possible. im not saying paul & co are involved cos they run the books, & also as a malaysian i doubt hes a member off any HK mob- more like hes in with the real gansters i.e the government
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07-30-2014 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by poofinger
How's little Nate doing, must be 9 years old by now?
He's pretty much awesome. He's turning out great, I have no idea how we got sO lucky!
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07-31-2014 , 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
I really wish you were trolling but unfortunately I think you are just an idiot that watches too many movies.

Do you actually have proof of the 350 in bets he allegedly took in or are you just repeating what you read online?

Do you actually have any proof that he is NOT a hard working entrepreneur or are you just making those assumptions ? Do you think everyone that plays high stakes poker or makes large wagers (allegedly) is connected to the mob? I guess Paul Newey is probably in the Triads too because he's rich and gambles.

What's laughable is that you think Tom Hall cares about your silly advice. Do you think he got to where he is today by taking advice from NVG? I highly doubt it. What's even more laughable is that you think anyone is going to be dead or in federal prison anytime soon. If Phua was actually connected to the Triads especially as a high ranking member as everyone claims, do you think he just signed up last month? He would been involved for probably most of his life and to think some stupid sports betting charge is going to be the end of him is laughable. Where to you come up with these ideas?
What's even more laughable is that you took at least 15 minutes out of your day to reply to a level.
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07-31-2014 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hankypankyAA
What's even more laughable is that you took at least 15 minutes out of your day to reply to a level.
So you're taking the "I looked like an idiot, so I'll claim a level" line?

What's laughable is you think that took me 15 mins to write....moron
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07-31-2014 , 07:56 PM
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U.S. Magistrate Judge Bill Hoffman put several restrictions on the freedom of the three defendants, including electronic monitoring, no gambling and no use of devices that have access to the Internet.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/la...dered-released

RIP high stakes
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