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07-17-2016 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlGustavJung
Sounds a pretty good reason to tighten a leash on mods so as not ever to have this opinion floating around..
I have no idea what you're proposing.

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Originally Posted by CarlGustavJung
...no offense, just spitballin Bobo, always liked you (and SGT RJ).... #BoboFett2016

Please no "thats taking away from the likableness of other mods bla blah"..idc, Im not typing about other mods, im typing about liking you and SGT RJ... This is not to say I do not like other moderators, it is just me expressing my liking of 2 specific ones @ this particular moment.

OK?
That's fine, and thanks.
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07-18-2016 , 10:52 AM
Not proposing, Im not that smart.

Spoiler:
ok ill try

1st thought would be Poll.... 2nd thought would be keep a handful regardless of poll results...like 2002 handfull (sorry initially Sarge♥) . Whats that, 5-8 ( i know 8 aint a handful, gtfo nits)? ... then poll again to fill the appropriate amount of positions + captains picks.

All while having banned Proxies, VPNs, and whatever else the Darth Nerds do to be able to have multiple, undetectable accounts on websites... Fair voting n all

I swear on a pineapple it might work


I'm telling you, it looked good in my head
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07-18-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
For the life of me, I can't imagine how you would think was in any way respectful:


You only pop in here once in a while, have no idea what was in that thread before it was deleted, yet you're prepared to declare the moderator overzealous. I guess you think you're being respectful because you said it seems like the height of self importance, but if you were trying to be respectful, that wasn't a place you needed to go when you admittedly knew nothing about why the thread was closed, and any semblance of being respectful was wiped out by your opening ("overzealous moderator") and closing ("get over your internal politics") anyway.


Given that none of the responses you received have any hint of self-importance or ego, I'd say this simply confirms what was obvious from your first post - you made a ridiculous assumption based on little knowledge of the situation.


This, this, this. We have had so many "look at what adz is doing on Twitter he be crazy!" threads that benefit no one. At best, they let a few people enjoy themselves at his expense, and at worst, they end up being a net negative for both him and others suffering from mental illness.

It would be one thing if that thread had become a great tip line or something, but it wasn't. There was nothing in the way of leads that closing the thread has extinguished. I'm sure if PP and/or R*R were suddenly inundated with important information, they'd consider reopening - and at the very least, they'll be posting that info.


Probably for the best. Maybe I should've left this alone as well, but it pisses me off when I see volunteer moderators doing good work and then getting crapped on for pretty much no reason.

It always amazes me how people are able to make assumptions about others based on a couple of posts on the Internet. Do people really think there's a large subset of posters that get some sort of gratification from being able to "impose their will" on others by locking or deleting a thread? Seems like an assumption that belongs with the tired "nerd posting from Mom & Dad's basement" meme.

And of course that doesn't just apply to posts about moderators; people make ridiculous assumptions about all sorts of posters on the forums.

Pro Tip: The number of people whose entire personality, passions, and interests can be accurately captured in an hour or two's activity on a forum each day is very, very small. We all know little to nothing about the motivations of the vast majority of posters.

/rant
I regret taking the insulting line that I did, because now we've devoted a number of posts to me, and my tone, and that really shouldn't be the focus. That's my fault - I could have communicated my opinion without being such a dick.

My point is this: you (collectively, as moderators) are delving into the realm of thought police with your actions. I don't think the role of internet message board moderators ought to be to decide what is good or valid information worthy of our time. Your role should be to remove trolls and police libel and maliciousness. Not filter out information on my behalf because you think you know what's best.

Thus - in my opinion, your actions ARE driven by self importance and come from a place of duty, driven by ego. Essentially, you take your job more seriously and define it differently than I would. Which is fine - I don't make the rules. I'm a guest here, and I should try not to be so insulting.

I just don't and can't see the justification for meddling in a missing persons thread because you found the content counterproductive. I'd submit that perhaps all the dialogue around mental state is in bounds and relevant to the overall subject. I just think that less is more when it comes to moderating, and I have zero interest in critiquing you - I was just disappointed to see that the conversation I logged in to see had been censored.
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07-18-2016 , 03:29 PM
Bobo is right. Instead of criticizing him, let us celebrate his recent award.

Spoiler:
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07-18-2016 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Phil
I regret taking the insulting line that I did, because now we've devoted a number of posts to me, and my tone, and that really shouldn't be the focus. That's my fault - I could have communicated my opinion without being such a dick.

My point is this: you (collectively, as moderators) are delving into the realm of thought police with your actions. I don't think the role of internet message board moderators ought to be to decide what is good or valid information worthy of our time. Your role should be to remove trolls and police libel and maliciousness. Not filter out information on my behalf because you think you know what's best.

Thus - in my opinion, your actions ARE driven by self importance and come from a place of duty, driven by ego. Essentially, you take your job more seriously and define it differently than I would. Which is fine - I don't make the rules. I'm a guest here, and I should try not to be so insulting.

I just don't and can't see the justification for meddling in a missing persons thread because you found the content counterproductive. I'd submit that perhaps all the dialogue around mental state is in bounds and relevant to the overall subject. I just think that less is more when it comes to moderating, and I have zero interest in critiquing you - I was just disappointed to see that the conversation I logged in to see had been censored.
Fair enough. 2+2 and you see things differently, and that's fine. I've seen forums where they let almost anything go, and a lot of people enjoy that. I've also seen forums that are modded a lot tighter, and they also attract a large audience that prefer such a style. Either way, you're certainly not the first person to feel that moderating should be much looser here, and you won't be the last.

Just two points I'll take a little exception to. Thought police - no, I don't think that's remotely close to a description of what's going on. But perhaps we just differ on the meaning of that expression. And the self-importance/ego-driven thing is a little silly IYAM. Not going to say that every moderating decision ever made here is free of ego, just like I wouldn't say the same for every post. But I can see no compelling reason to believe that this particular decision is ego-driven.

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Originally Posted by gregorio
Bobo is right. Instead of criticizing him, let us celebrate his recent award.

Spoiler:
SWEET!!!

Glad to see someone has finally recognized me as being as important as I always knew I was.
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07-18-2016 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett


SWEET!!!

Glad to see someone has finally recognized me as being as important as I always knew I was.
All the other mods were on holiday
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07-18-2016 , 08:33 PM
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08-03-2016 , 10:42 PM
Why cant I ask for a Pokemon Go download for android in the LC thread?
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08-03-2016 , 11:32 PM
Maybe try POG or google search. Pokemon Go has nothing to do with NVG and your post content is not even close to "1/3 less content than a regular NVG thread" as the thread title states.
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08-04-2016 , 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by R*R
Maybe try POG or google search. Pokemon Go has nothing to do with NVG and your post content is not even close to "1/3 less content than a regular NVG thread" as the thread title states.

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Originally Posted by TwoPlusTwo NVG Rules
2. Post in the Correct Forum. Save us the hassle of moving your post by posting it in the correct forum. Topics related to online poker rooms belong in the*ZOO(Internet Poker).... Threads about internet poker sites and anything to do with internet poker sites do not belong in NVG; they go in the Internet Poker forum
Kinda like these threads on 1st page of NVG?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...t-4-a-1622193/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...hread-1621837/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...reanu-1620765/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...poker-1044393/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...thread-861923/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...erged-1609195/

Some Podcast Forum candidates?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...016-a-1618286/

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...sodes-1418417/

Politics/PU?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...ategy-1592550/

Interesting how a "noob" (*wink wink*) can start a soo nothing-to-do-with-poker-or-NVG thread and 5 months later its still going strong. Makes ya wonder which mod started a gimmick so he could deliberately go against NVG rules and post a ****ty politics thread in NVG when theres 2 politics threads on 2+2 already.

What do I know, Im just a random poster following the rules and posting a low content post in a low content thread in a high volume Gossip forum.

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08-04-2016 , 12:49 PM
Sorry dude. No Pokemon Go in NVG. A bit of a blessing really.

And we may just have to revisit that rule so thanks for the input.
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08-04-2016 , 05:17 PM
The vast majority of "well, my post isn't as OT as these ones" posts are terrible, and that one's no exception. I won't bother going into all of examples, and will cherry pick the ones that are obviously worst - we don't have a podcast forum.

But really, what does any of that matter? There are borderline and subjective moderating decisions made in NVG all the time. Trying to find some to justify a Pokemon Go post in NVG is just silly.
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08-04-2016 , 06:25 PM
How about:

2016 Android thread
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08-04-2016 , 11:23 PM
^^ well ty kind fella, ill give it a shot...must.go.dream.now



nite
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08-05-2016 , 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sba9630
How about:

2016 Android thread
Well, now I feel like an unhelpful jackass (because I was).

Thanks for the link!
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08-06-2016 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlGustavJung
^^ well ty kind fella, ill give it a shot...must.go.dream.now

nite
Go give it a shot friend, I'd barely know how to use my phone if it weren't for that forum.


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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Well, now I feel like an unhelpful jackass (because I was).

Thanks for the link!
You have always been the man around here and you always will be.
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08-28-2016 , 09:19 PM
I take exception to my art being moved to the low content thread.
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08-28-2016 , 09:46 PM
Doesnt get much lower content than that.
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08-29-2016 , 12:15 AM
Well I never.
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08-29-2016 , 01:41 AM
You should, at least once.
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09-07-2016 , 11:35 PM
Just noticed we're not allowed to block a 'moderator/admin' - some of them post *a lot* about things that have nothing to do with moderating ... would it be possible for them to have different screen names for their official duties so we can put them on block for the rest of their posts? Feel like that would be a plus with no downside if they had different names ...

Last edited by TrustySam; 09-07-2016 at 11:41 PM.
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09-07-2016 , 11:39 PM
It's certainly possible, but I don't see it happening any time soon - seems like a lot of hassle to ask a volunteer to go through just so you don't have to read their posts.

Sorry I suck so much.
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09-07-2016 , 11:43 PM
lol - it actually wasn't you

Didn't realize it was a volunteer position - thanks for the fast reply Bobo, cheers!
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09-08-2016 , 01:16 PM
It is possible to do this. The answer lies in the depths of ATF, but I'm not sure if Admins want to encourage this so i won't link to it and you'll have to find it for yourself. That is if you read this post before it gets deleted
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09-08-2016 , 03:45 PM
Yes, some kind of Chrome add-on I think; not sure if it still works.
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