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Old 06-22-2015, 02:08 PM   #1
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News: California online poker hearing June 24

Hearing is in front of the Assembly GO Committee on Wed June 24 at 1:30 PST.

Hearing title is "The Legality of Internet Poker-How Prepared is California to Regulate It?"

Hearing details here. Live stream (audio only) here.

A witness list has yet to be released. I believe I've seen John Pappas of the PPA and Commissioner Richard Schuetz mentioned.

Given the nature of the hearing there will probably also be representatives from the California DoJ and representation from the tribal, horse racing and card club corners.

The hearing is an informational hearing, so there's no vote or outcome to watch for. It's more of a temperature-taking opportunity.

What we're looking for is any indication that stakeholders are moving toward consensus on (i) the participation of tracks in California online poker and (ii) the participation of PokerStars in California's market.

I and many others believe that the former is a far more critical / difficult issue than the latter.
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Old 06-23-2015, 10:53 AM   #2
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

Anyone have an over/under on when online poker will be legal in CA? I'd REALLY like to start donking off money online late into the night again.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:09 PM   #3
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

Dec.27th 2015 is the exact date. So u can just give me your money until then. Thanks.
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Old 06-23-2015, 12:21 PM   #4
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

I thought that the latest sentiment had turned decidedly negative (at least insofar as chances for 2015).
- There was that hearing 6 weeks ago when they voted on and passed the shell bill, which seemed very positive.
- Then all those negative soundbites after the CA gaming conference, when it seemed like all hope was lost.
- And now...uh, where does this 'hearing' fit in re: the shifting tides? Is it good for anything other than an opportunity for more soundbites to drip out from the various CA stakeholders that might give a vague indicator of whether things are getting better or worse? (And on this note, do you get the sense that there's serious behind-the-scenes stuff happening irrespective of whatever public-facing soundbites we're hearing and giving weight to?...or is it largely a what-you-see/hear-is-what-you-get re: igaming in CA?)
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Old 06-23-2015, 05:26 PM   #5
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

I would agree that the general sentiment is negative.

The hearing predated the developments you described. It (along with another hearing on July 8) have been scheduled since late April.

I think the public-facing discussion offers a useful (albeit partial) view into what's happening behind the scenes.

I will say that given who I expect to testify tomorrow, the hearing should at a minimum be more entertaining than the last two.
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Old 06-23-2015, 06:54 PM   #6
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

The full agenda for the hearing has been posted on USPoker:

“The Legality of Internet Poker – How Prepared Is California to Regulate It?”

Opening Remarks: Chairman Adam Gray

Background: How did Internet gaming evolve and what might the future hold from a legal, regulatory, economic, and operational standpoint?

Anita Lee, Senior Fiscal & Policy Analyst, Legislative Analyst’s Office
Stephen M. Hart, J.D., Partner, Lewis Roca Rothgerber LLP
Chris Krafcik, Research Director North America, GamblingCompliance

Regulated Online Gaming: What can legislators, regulators and operators expect given the experience in legal markets to date and the related practices to effectively implement and regulate iPoker.

Michael J. Pollock, Managing Director, Spectrum Gaming Group
Anna Sainsbury, Chief Executive Officer, GeoComply
Craig Abrahams, Chief Financial Officer, Caesars Interactive Entertainment

Enforcement and Regulation: What would be needed from a regulatory standpoint to implement and regulate iPoker in California?

Richard Schuetz, Member, California Gambling Control Commission
Anna Carr, Deputy Director Legislation & Regulatory Affairs Division, California Gambling Control Commission
Stacey Luna Baxter, Assistant Bureau Chief, Bureau of Gambling Control, Department of Justice
Nathan DaValle, Assistant Bureau Chief, Bureau of Gambling Control, Department of Justice

Suitability Standards for Licensure: What suitability standards should be considered in an iPoker framework bill to deem a licensee eligible for licensure?

Jeff L. Grubbe, Chairman, Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians
Leland Kinter, Chairman, Vacha Dehe Wintun Nation
David Fried, Chief Counsel, California Grand Casino
Lynn “Nay” Valbuena, Chairwoman, San Manuel Band of Mission Indians
Eric Hollreiser, Head of Corporate Communications, Amaya Inc.
Keith Sharp, General Counsel to Hawaiian Gardens Casino and iPoker Counsel to Commerce Casino and Bicycle Casino

Horse Racing’s Eligibility: Should California’s Horse Racing Industry be included as an eligible licensee in an iPoker framework bill?

Keith Brackpool, West Coast Chairman, Stronach Group
Bob Baffert, Thoroughbred Trainer, Board of Directors, Thoroughbred Owners of California
Mike Pegram, Board Chairman, Thoroughbred Owners of California
Mark Macarro, Chairman, Pechanga Band of Luisefio Indians

Consumer Perspective: Should California authorize and regulate online poker?

John Pappas, Executive Director, Poker Players Alliance
Robert Uithoven, Board Member, Coalition to Stop Internet Gambling
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:18 PM   #7
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

I don't see what's in it for the current monopolies. They have it down to where they have zero competition and are colliding on things like rake and promotions,with no recourse. Hawaiian gardens casino is about to open the largest card room in the United States and have literally taken away any and every perk/promotion or value, while raping the game to the point that in some games people play for NO pot. $0 in the middle. This should never happen and I believe crosses the line of what they should even be able to offer, as no game is supposed to be played against the house.

The problem is the regulatory body are in their pockets too. Again, I just see no good reason they'll approve this, aside from offering a game that doesn't resemble a skill game and only if they can get the current regulatory body to be the same for online as it is for live.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:34 PM   #8
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

No representation from the Viejas Band of Kumeyaay Indians, which sponsored that anti-online poker ad in California earlier this month?


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Anyone have an over/under on when online poker will be legal in CA? I'd REALLY like to start donking off money online late into the night again.
I'm in California, and still play online late at night. Please join in and start donking off said money.
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Old 06-23-2015, 08:51 PM   #9
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

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No representation from the Viejas Band of Kumeyaay Indians, which sponsored that anti-online poker ad in California earlier this month?
Not directly, but Viejas is part of the anti-Stars coalition that includes Pechanga, Agua Caliente, Yocha Dehe (who recently backed an anti-Stars direct mail campaign) and others. Pechanga Chairman Mark Macarro will be at the hearing, as will Yocha Dehe Chairman Leland Kinter and Agua Chairman Jeff Grubbe.
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Old 06-23-2015, 11:16 PM   #10
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

Thx OPR - do you know: is it all happening in the same room, sequentially? Any chance they make a video stream available?
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:30 PM   #11
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Thx OPR - do you know: is it all happening in the same room, sequentially? Any chance they make a video stream available?
Yes, it's all one hearing. Audio streaming here:

http://assembly.ca.gov/listen/4202-audio

Not sure about video yet, looking.
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Old 06-24-2015, 02:52 PM   #12
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

Looks like there will be a live stream here:

http://www.calchannel.com/live-webcast/
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Old 06-24-2015, 04:58 PM   #13
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Re: News: California online poker hearing June 24

For some reason, I chuckled when hearing the UIGEA pronounced as "yoo-I-gah." If anything, I've heard it has "yoo-ee-gee-ah" or "wee-gee."
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:11 PM   #14
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what does "on a federal level" mean?

K so I'm a noob at politics I was just bored and watching the california internet gaming assembly hearing, and one of the guys said "its unlikely internet gaming will be legalized on a federal level", does this mean its unlikely that the country (as in all states) will legalize online poker making it only a closed market? is it possible to have an open market without it being legal on a federal level?
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Old 06-24-2015, 05:13 PM   #15
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Re: what does "on a federal level" mean?

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