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So, as an Espace Jeux player, playing against the same players I have now, but on Stars software plus adding the Ontario players. It would be a pretty sweet deal. But I sure would miss the occasional massive MTT on Stars with the rest of the world.

I fail to see how being limited to a single site playing against players from 4 provinces would be anything even remotely resembling "a pretty sweet deal".

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04-04-2016 , 05:18 PM

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Fayth

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yea definitely nothing sweet about it, not to mention the highest stakes that runs everyday and far from running the entire day is NL400, traffic on there is kind of sad

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04-04-2016 , 10:41 PM

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leconnaisseur

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Pour les fonctionneux sans colonne de loto-quebec qui lise le thread

Vous n aurez jamais une cenne de nous un site de poker remplis de fonctionnaire qui font du insider trading ca nous degoute

Loto quebec va disparaitre d ici 10 ans car tous ce quil touche ce detruit

Imagine that people.

LOTO QUEBEC ARE SO ****** ******ED THAT THEY LOSE MONEY RUNNING CASINO

MANY CASINOS ARE -EV AND THEY LOSE MONEY ON ALL ONLINE SITES

THEY ARE THE DUMBEST WORTHLESS SCUM YOU EVER MET

LOTO QUEBEC MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH BAASOV FOR INSIDER TRADING FOR THE DEAL THEY DID WITH STARS

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04-04-2016 , 10:55 PM

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leconnaisseur

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Marc Desjardins confirmed loto quebec shill

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04-05-2016 , 12:01 AM

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Everest17

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this is a complete joke, Quebec is never satisfied and always whining

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04-05-2016 , 12:04 AM

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Marc Desjardins

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

I fail to see how being limited to a single site playing against players from 4 provinces would be anything even remotely resembling "a pretty sweet deal".

Don't get me wrong, I am against any form of censorship and site blocking.

But I am not a grinder, I am a reg that already plays on EJ because the caliber is poorer than Stars. I am a bad player, so playing on EJ lets me win for bigger stakes that I could play elsewhere.

So now, if all of that happens, then I get a better software and more players in my pool (from Ontario).

I admit, it's selfish and I will be very happy if it DOES NOT happen, but if it does, then my own personal situation will be better.

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04-05-2016 , 12:08 AM

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Fayth

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except if that happens then you also get the good winning regs to be a lot more active on there, thus preventing you to win money given you are bad as you said

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04-05-2016 , 02:03 AM

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Nash_equilibria

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Both the Ontario government and OLG are so incompetent that the poker site has been delayed for years and probably won't happen for another couple of years.

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The other big thing he mentioned is that they plan to add Ontario to their player pool (right now, it's Quebec, BC and Saskatchewan).

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04-05-2016 , 09:12 AM

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Marc Desjardins

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except if that happens then you also get the good winning regs to be a lot more active on there, thus preventing you to win money given you are bad as you said

Very fair point... so not only am I a bad player, I am also short-sighted it seems

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04-05-2016 , 01:07 PM

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Monorail

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Even worse, French only at the tables!

(English allowed in the chat box, but only below the french and in smaller font)

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04-05-2016 , 01:31 PM

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restorativejustice

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Originally Posted by Everest17

this is a complete joke, Quebec is never satisfied and always whining

What do you expect? It is the most socialist and most corrupt government in Canada that seems to believe that the public exists to fund the lifestyles of those in it.

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04-05-2016 , 02:00 PM

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WateryBoil

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Sucks for quebec, id be v v surprised if this happens doe.

Good thing i live in ontario i guess.

Also the desire of the gov't to FORCE these INFERIOR products on us is ****ing disturbing. I never understood actual logic of forcing people to use ****ty garbage instead of the far superior ROW based sites for casino/poker/sports? They should just straight up tell us they want to rape us softly and steal our money via the lawmakers, as thats 100% the truth.

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04-05-2016 , 02:03 PM

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we dont even ****ing tax gambling up here, ergo how could any gambling/sportsbetting site actually BE illegal?

Anytime im in a poker room, at a bar, with my friends who have already been drilled this info, i actively tell EVERYONE not to play on government run sites or use their sportsbetting kiosks. Like proline. Yet proline still makes millions per year. ****ing gross.

Proline (gov't sports) is ****ing garbage with HUGE vig. Proline is also impossible to beat. Im sure all the government based casino sites will be super rigged in terms of payouts.

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04-06-2016 , 10:14 AM

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UtheMan

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If it passes; do you think they will allow us to withdraw our rolls before blocking the sites?

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04-06-2016 , 10:33 AM

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restorativejustice

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Originally Posted by WateryBoil

Gambling falls under the "Windfall Tax" rule and is not taxed unless it is classified as an occupation or regular and predictable revenue stream. I believe a guy who was killing it on Pro-Line a few years ago (when there were mistakes in the lines that did not reflect player scratches) had a million dollar win year classified as income.

That said, if you can avoid government-operated gambling of any kind you would be wise to do so as the odds are skewed against players to reflect the lack of competition and the bloated public-sector overhead.

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04-06-2016 , 10:40 AM

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ShipThisPLZ

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Originally Posted by UtheMan

If it passes; do you think they will allow us to withdraw our rolls before blocking the sites?

probably not

my guess is that it would happen abruptly then pokerstars would get your money to you

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04-06-2016 , 12:49 PM

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Everest17

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The WSOP in Montreal is at Montreal Casino, rather than Playground which is interesting. I am not sure how it has been in the past, but I checked on the WSOP website and found something interesting.

Sat, May 7th
6:00 PM
1-Day Event Event #11: $320 buy-in No-Limit Hold'em (Online Only)

This is an online ring event. Register and play on EspaceJeux

edit: not trying to post the link, trying to show what is being advertised

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04-06-2016 , 06:03 PM

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Geezer Soze

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Originally Posted by UtheMan

If it passes; do you think they will allow us to withdraw our rolls before blocking the sites?

Yes, why not create a run on the bank ?

Wonder what law governs Quebec's authority to order blocking of access to Kahnawake-based sites, or more specifically, to delegate to the Loto, the authority to do so ?

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04-06-2016 , 06:07 PM

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Geezer Soze

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Originally Posted by Everest17

WSOP not licensed to offer online poker in Quebec, maybe ? However, that does create an interesting conflict.

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04-07-2016 , 01:53 PM

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WateryBoil

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i dont think they are technically offering it. its dubbed an online "wsop" event, but legally they arnt running it if its on espacejeux. that would be the quebec gov't running it.

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04-07-2016 , 02:08 PM

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kcbj6

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Originally Posted by WateryBoil

In general i agree proline is crap however if u pay attention they make some large errors with handicapping that u can profit from

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05-25-2016 , 11:23 AM

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BirdWatcher

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Bodog.eu just banned residents of Quebec for deposit/withdraws. You can't even log into your account anymore.

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05-25-2016 , 12:00 PM

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SootedPowa

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Originally Posted by BirdWatcher

Bodog.eu just banned residents of Quebec for deposit/withdraws. You can't even log into your account anymore.

Hearing unconfirmed rumors as well that NetEnt (slots provider) are going to pull out of Canada entirely tomorrow.

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05-25-2016 , 07:05 PM

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NicestoryiCALL

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All talk but nothing happens, not a single sites emailed me to say they were pulling out but bodog, i suspect it's because the bodog owner is a canada/quebec citizen (or used to be?)

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