tbh the format was about as fun to a recreational player as watching paint dry. It's the equivalent of online chess where games can take weeks to play.

What they'll end up doing is segregating online poker for Desktop players and mobile players in some capacity. This will suck for regular players but that's the only method Pokerstars can successfully operate a product like this.

When a regular plays on a mobile device, they're still a regular and still winning.

I look forward to being able to play perfectly GTO $5 HUSNGs by casually taking my time to plug stuff into some solving software.

I also look forward to playing 2000 duel regs who are all losing to rake cause no edges.

Amaya is literally mentally ill.

Yes you are right. It's amazing that despite winning on both devices winning players choose a desktop 99% of the time.

That's because there's an option of playing on a desktop at all and programmers developing HUDs prefer desktop to mobile platforms. Regs need to be as armed as possible when the other regs are armed too.

If there were no desktop option, the arms race would be slower. I expected that there would be no publicly available 'HUD' for Duel for many months even after its launch across the entire stars.com pool.

That was sort of what I was implying.

The bigger issue is if mobile segregation occurred a 1 tabling rec that currently plays on the .com server would suddenly leave and play on the mobile product. This would absolutely crush any "winning" players left on the .com option. Moving to the mobile product isn't a realistic option either since multi tabling isn't viable and likely Stars would introduce strict table caps to keep regs away.

The fact that Stars didn't try this option (would work for many game types) shows their not even smart enough to figure out how to effectively increase their own bottom line. Because morals/ethics have no bearing when margins are used in the same sentence.

Please, it's all about demand not about programmers' preference.

I don't know much about developing for Android or iOS but if the game on mobile becomes remotely popular there will be people trying to make a working HUD asap. There is one thing Stars could do to delay it: make using any helper software during play a bannable offence. No sane programmer is going to start a public project in such environment so HUDs will stay as private tools for high stakes players (because hiring people to develop a private project for you is expensive)

It's interesting because if they wanted to cap number of tables they could, you know, cap the number of tables in the current desktop client. It would be strange to use a new mobile oriented format to introduce that but you never know what kind of thinking goes into those decisions these days

They could cap the tables today but that would cut into profits as they like regs battling it out and losing to rake. Yes recs get fleeced quicker with "winning' players but they've decided that non-caps is more profitable.

But with mobile segregation they can and should, from a business standpoint, put caps in. The vast majority of mobile users are recs... therefore having them all switch to a separate platform automatically keeps winning players away.

The end result would be more reg vs. reg action on the desktop site. (good for Stars) and more rec. vs. rec. action on the mobile offering. (good for Stars as their deposits will last longer and some might even win once in a while.)

The downsides are this will really stretch the boundaries of how much more damage can regs take before they leave in mass which would really hurt Stars. Regs are needed from Stars's POV, they just don't want to pay them much for their service.

What Pokerstars than Amaya need to understand and become experts on is how and in what specific ways can you attack winning regs while making sure the wheels still turn. This last point I think they've done an ok job with (business POV) as many still play, but the cracks have grown wider over the past few years as more game offerings have diminished the necessary critical mass in any game type driving each separate offering closer to the edge.

App seems to be removed:

https://www.highstakesdb.com/7063-po...-4-months.aspx

not really 'news' given the fact, that this is 7 weeks old

Yeah i'm a bit confused about this doing the rounds the last day or two. I'm not sure if

a) it's actually now finally been removed from the app store, where it had been dormant for months, or

b) the fact that this is being discussed in NVG in other threads this week and there was a retrospective on another new site has confused other poker journalists, who think this is new news

seeing the 'NVG thread bump ---> news phenomena' now and then, my bet would go on b ^^

Homer would rather play Pokemon Go

Brilliant!

Well played!