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10-25-2016 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
We have just published an editorial on this topic at Upswing Poker which specifically references this thread and Daniel's recent podcast interviews.

https://www.upswingpoker.com/daniel-...uals-more-fun/
There are 274 other posts here which also specifically reference this thread and Daniel's recent podcast interview.

Why not just post your opinion directly in the thread like everyone else?

Sorry, but 2p2 would become unreadable if it was just a bunch of people directing readers to read their views elsewhere on commercial sites.
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10-25-2016 , 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
There are 274 other posts here which also specifically reference this thread and Daniel's recent podcast interview.

Why not just post your opinion directly in the thread like everyone else?

Sorry, but 2p2 would become unreadable if it was just a bunch of people directing readers to read their views elsewhere on commercial sites.
Hi LektorAJ. I am happy you brought this up because I have wanted to address this specifically in a response to someone who would have a legitimate gripe about cross-referencing here on TwoPlusTwo.

As Doug Polk has stated in his videos, one of our main goals as Team Upswing members is to play a part in "growing poker." In my personal opinion, patrons of any activity become genuinely engaged through content that is authoritative, accurate, cited, relatable, timely, and thoroughly researched. It is also my opinion that any poker fan's best chance of encountering this quality content is through the most authoritative, widely-viewed sources that have communities built around them such as TwoPlusTwo, PocketFives, YouTube, Twitch, etc.

If you read my material published across a number of sites over the last year, you know that I actively credit this forum, its contributing members and specific views expressed within threads in a manner that promotes and acknowledges this website's unique status in the poker realm.

So my reply is this. I would like to see more poker writers who put serious effort into their work submit their articles for review here, but I would also like for those writers to also submit to any reasonable feedback and be secure enough in his/her methods to openly advise rather than disqualifying the first negative shoot-reply.

Read my article, and if you have ANYTHING you'd like to communicate with me about it, I'm here first and foremost for validation because I value other informed posters' views ESPECIALLY if they aren't in line with my own. So as long as I'm willing to respond to feedback, should I not establish that I'm here to compete in the editorial streets and seek innovative ways to spread the game of poker?
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10-25-2016 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Hi LektorAJ. I am happy you brought this up because I have wanted to address this specifically in a response to someone who would have a legitimate gripe about cross-referencing here on TwoPlusTwo.

As Doug Polk has stated in his videos, one of our main goals as Team Upswing members is to play a part in "growing poker." In my personal opinion, patrons of any activity become genuinely engaged through content that is authoritative, accurate, cited, relatable, timely, and thoroughly researched. It is also my opinion that any poker fan's best chance of encountering this quality content is through the most authoritative, widely-viewed sources that have communities built around them such as TwoPlusTwo, PocketFives, YouTube, Twitch, etc.

If you read my material published across a number of sites over the last year, you know that I actively credit this forum, its contributing members and specific views expressed within threads in a manner that promotes and acknowledges this website's unique status in the poker realm.

So my reply is this. I would like to see more poker writers who put serious effort into their work submit their articles for review here, but I would also like for those writers to also submit to any reasonable feedback and be secure enough in his/her methods to openly advise rather than disqualifying the first negative shoot-reply.

Read my article, and if you have ANYTHING you'd like to communicate with me about it, I'm here first and foremost for validation because I value other informed posters' views ESPECIALLY if they aren't in line with my own. So as long as I'm willing to respond to feedback, should I not establish that I'm here to compete in the editorial streets and seek innovative ways to spread the game of poker?
That's a lot of words not saying very much.

Don't use threads such as this to advertise your own for-profit site. If you want to contribute then you can copy + paste your article into this thread.
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10-25-2016 , 12:36 PM
If You take more there can only be a winning Player called Stars How can you not see that being better for the games *Stars can't lose and just wins faster and more often, see that's better for the (Shareholders) It's an Easy Game Nothing Hard to fig Out . . . More Money 4 the site =More Money 4 the site . . . Not Hard To understand . . .

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10-25-2016 , 02:44 PM
It is funny that Daniel is saying that Live poker is doing better, while he is working for an online poker site...

But it is true live poker is doing better and is growing even in places outside of the US where you have all the online poker options.

Then Daniel says High stakes poker is bad for online poker and circus Guy would still be playing if he did not lose so much money... Saying this just shows how stupid Daniel is, if Mr circus played 10 20 he would have lost even more times, and he would of lost motivation to play even quicker.

Daniel is just upset that he is not good enough to be able to play in those online games, and he hates those winning players he would rather let them quit poker or move on to other things..

Also so funny about him saying that the high stakes are causing bots or cheating or what not. Not that high stakes players are scared of bots but high stakes games probably have the least amount of collusion/card sharing/cheating and even bots I believe is non existent.

I used to have a lot of respect for Daniel, but now I just think he is a moron and is not helping poker grow anymore, and worse yet he is becoming somebody that would rather angle shoot or does whatever he can to put good winning players at a disadvantage because straight up , he does not have a chance...

He should quit poker and go work for the Hillary campaign :P
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10-25-2016 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Two
...Daniel is just upset that he is not good enough to be able to play in those online games, and he hates those winning players he would rather let them quit poker or move on to other things.. I used to have a lot of respect for Daniel, but now I just think he is a moron and is not helping poker grow anymore, and worse yet he is becoming somebody that would rather angle shoot or does whatever he can to put good winning players at a disadvantage because straight up , he does not have a chance...

He should quit poker and go work for the Hillary campaign :P
If you look at everything DNEGS said and did the last year only from the perspective of his self-interest, it all makes sense.
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10-25-2016 , 03:34 PM
^^^^^^^^^ this ^^^^^^^^^

Every one of you would accept millions, status, women, prestige, and all you have to do is play poker and support business decisions unfavorable to a bunch of gamblers.

Normally rational and decent people justify to themselves MUCH worse in the name of a few grand, let alone those perks.
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10-25-2016 , 03:48 PM
idk about "status" or "prestige" but the others, sure. I prefer being isolated from random idiots knowing about me or what I've done.
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10-25-2016 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by restorativejustice
If you look at everything DNEGS said his entire life from the perspective of his self-interest, it all makes sense.
FYP

Kid hairplugs has always been only about himself.
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10-25-2016 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Hi LektorAJ. I am happy you brought this up because I have wanted to address this specifically in a response to someone who would have a legitimate gripe about cross-referencing here on TwoPlusTwo.

As Doug Polk has stated in his videos, one of our main goals as Team Upswing members is to play a part in "growing poker." In my personal opinion, patrons of any activity become genuinely engaged through content that is authoritative, accurate, cited, relatable, timely, and thoroughly researched. It is also my opinion that any poker fan's best chance of encountering this quality content is through the most authoritative, widely-viewed sources that have communities built around them such as TwoPlusTwo, PocketFives, YouTube, Twitch, etc.

If you read my material published across a number of sites over the last year, you know that I actively credit this forum, its contributing members and specific views expressed within threads in a manner that promotes and acknowledges this website's unique status in the poker realm.

So my reply is this. I would like to see more poker writers who put serious effort into their work submit their articles for review here, but I would also like for those writers to also submit to any reasonable feedback and be secure enough in his/her methods to openly advise rather than disqualifying the first negative shoot-reply.

Read my article, and if you have ANYTHING you'd like to communicate with me about it, I'm here first and foremost for validation because I value other informed posters' views ESPECIALLY if they aren't in line with my own. So as long as I'm willing to respond to feedback, should I not establish that I'm here to compete in the editorial streets and seek innovative ways to spread the game of poker?
You guys at Upswing Poker can't afford to hire an editor?
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10-26-2016 , 02:19 AM
Would like to hear a real journalist interview DNegs so he can get some tough questions. Problem with poker is that it's a relative small community where all media are friends with the pros so I dont see this happening.
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10-26-2016 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BrainJail
Doug goes from clearity to clearity! (local saying i guess)

Started to like Rider more and more after he snap-called DNegs ridiculous claim that DNegs would beat 25/50 NL online within two weeks of "hard training".

Since Doug actually plays online poker and isn't bought by Pokerstars it's not that hard to stand with him on this issue tho.
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10-26-2016 , 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
So my reply is this. I would like to see more poker writers who put serious effort into their work submit their articles for review here,
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Originally Posted by The Imp
If you want to contribute then you can copy + paste your article into this thread.
As Imp says - submit your article for review by copy-pasting it here. Unless you are Isai Scheinberg's username or something then why should people go off-site to read one of the hundreds of opinions about this?

I'm not personally bothered that it's a commercial site - it would be an equal waste of thread space if you and the other 274 people each posted your opinions on your personal blogs and turned the thread into a collection of links.
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10-26-2016 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dhubermex
Hi LektorAJ. I am happy you brought this up because I have wanted to address this specifically in a response to someone who would have a legitimate gripe about cross-referencing here on TwoPlusTwo.

As Doug Polk has stated in his videos, one of our main goals as Team Upswing members is to play a part in "growing poker." In my personal opinion, patrons of any activity become genuinely engaged through content that is authoritative, accurate, cited, relatable, timely, and thoroughly researched. It is also my opinion that any poker fan's best chance of encountering this quality content is through the most authoritative, widely-viewed sources that have communities built around them such as TwoPlusTwo, PocketFives, YouTube, Twitch, etc.

If you read my material published across a number of sites over the last year, you know that I actively credit this forum, its contributing members and specific views expressed within threads in a manner that promotes and acknowledges this website's unique status in the poker realm.

So my reply is this. I would like to see more poker writers who put serious effort into their work submit their articles for review here, but I would also like for those writers to also submit to any reasonable feedback and be secure enough in his/her methods to openly advise rather than disqualifying the first negative shoot-reply.

Read my article, and if you have ANYTHING you'd like to communicate with me about it, I'm here first and foremost for validation because I value other informed posters' views ESPECIALLY if they aren't in line with my own. So as long as I'm willing to respond to feedback, should I not establish that I'm here to compete in the editorial streets and seek innovative ways to spread the game of poker?
Tl;dr

Nobody cares about your opinion enough to go to another site to read about it.
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10-26-2016 , 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BrainJail
Excellent video by Doug!


As a fan of Negreanu, it's just really disappointing to hear Negreanu lie about the rake.
Negreanu is a nice guy and it's fun to watch him play poker, but what he's saying about the rake is an outright lie.
Negreanu knows he is lying (& he must think everyone is stupid enough to believe him), therefore he is really insulting every single person who plays on Pokerstars.

Negreanu: 'Pay more rake, it's good for you! (You bunch of suckers!! lol)'.

Anyway, great video by Doug. Loving that Harry Haxton & the Dream machine poster.
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10-27-2016 , 12:42 AM
Well yea, trying to reason that pokerstars taking more out of games leaving players w less effective money to play with is a good thing in the end for players, and anyone but shareholders, is at the very least insulting.
I mean what are we twelve?
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10-27-2016 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lancelott_
Well yea, trying to reason that pokerstars taking more out of games leaving players w less effective money to play with is a good thing in the end for players, and anyone but shareholders, is at the very least insulting.
I mean what are we twelve?
I think of it more as him insulting himself because he's attaching a stupid statement to his reputation.
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10-27-2016 , 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Tl;dr

Nobody cares about your opinion enough to go to another site to read about it.

Regards

Daniel Trumpf
Yes we do, keep up the good work and put light on Pokerstars and Daniel Negrenau behaviour and statements.
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