All kidding aside, this is pretty much where I am, too.

Yes, maybe two weeks of studying would be a bit too short to win in a game where the regulars have spent literally thousands of hours more specializing in that one specific format of poker while constantly facing other highly motivated people who have put in a similar amount of work on and off the tables.

Now is April 2015 and i'm pretty sure you won't be even able to beat 500z in 2 weeks. (Im not saying youre not capable of beating those games with A LOT more time)

Being the best at live donkaments is really not something i would brag about lol. Daniel, have you ever heard this idiom: "In the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." ? + live tournament is basically a lottery. Maybe your whole tournament career is just one hot run, you cant tell with such small statistical sample as you have or other live tournament "pros"...

Your first sentence that is not bull****. Gratz.

Knowing NVG, I'm about to be ripped for being a fanboy, which I'm not. My kids are in bed last night, I'm bored, so I YouTube old WSOP episodes (yea, I know, I need a life. Welcome to parenthood). In one of the episodes, either from 2006 or 2007, I don't remember for sure, there was a story about DN taking a trip to California to spend the day with a kid who was a burn victim and was a fan of DN. I don't know DN from any other pro, but it was a very cool thing to do for someone to travel 5 hours away and spend a day with someone they don't know. Just wanted to give DN a thumbs up for that.

Daniel. You use to play heads up on Pokerstars cash games and I use to watch you play heads up and watch you get upset and say how Pokerstars game play was rigged when you lost pots. It's nice to see when they threw lots of money your way to represent them how you changed your tune.

I dont care if the rake and the fees are the ****ing cheapest anywhere if i cant make it as a poker player, what type of argument is that. If you want to make it in the long run as a company, dont ****ing kill poker, idiot.

Im a big 'fanboy' of Daniel Neg. And I couldnt give a wet turd what tards on this site think of that. Man is a legend. Period.

well I understand the increased cost stars face due to having to pay tax but the bottom line is, if it is not feasible for me to make any significant money on stars I wont play there.

so if stars hike the rake again generally or for the Uk the simple fact is I will move elsewhere or stop playing.

The margins are already paper thin as it is.

Ultimately if I was a board member of Pokerstars I would try and hire this guy who posts on 2+2 called LukeSilver. it seems most of the points he makes pokerstars end up following weather due to having listened to him, or just by chance.

in fact I mentioned something similar to the idea of spin and goes way back before they existed on any site, in an email to stars. although my idea was slightly different it was basically the same principle. (i just recommended doing it for 6 max and 9 max)

which will come in time btw!

lol stfu negran you're so ****ing whiney. I wouldn't put you near any of the top poker players. ainec
id say you're slightly better than sommerville - and he sucks

Everyone better than you=sucks.

Got it. Thanks.

LOL to all of the random people posting here about why DNegs is some kind of traitor to poker since they don't agree with every stance he has ever taken. Give me a break guys. DN has been in the public eye for longer than most poker pros, has had a great career, is entertaining to watch, and has been a positive asset to the poker community, perhaps moreso than any other player.

Yeah he's said some stuff that you might not agree with... well, the longer somebody is in public, the more times you won't agree with them.

Instead of being up in arms about the state of online poker and blaming DN for not doing enough since he is part of PokerStars, you should go after the real cause of the problem, which is the US Govt shutting the whole f*cking thing down on Black Friday (and via the UIGEA before that). Without US players, online poker is in bad shape, no matter what PS does.

The fact that Daniel is here, and in the public eye, and an "ambassador" so to speak, shows that he cares about the current and future state of poker, which is more than can be said for much of the poker community. If this makes me a "fanboy" then so be it, but +1 to DNegs for his contributions to the poker community and for his advice on becoming a pro.

no if they were better than I, they would not suck

Every poker player ever has made plenty of calls that seem dumb afterwards.

For anyone flaming pros who won in the 90s or whatever, saying "lol the fields were much softer back then, any NL10 grinder would crush" etc... Here's a little fact for ya.
The fields were much softer back then, obviously, but the resources to becoming a pro were practically inexistent. That means, than when your little p**sy ass got "good" at poker by reading forums and watching training videos, the old school pros were mostly self-taught. That takes higher intelligente imo than just watching training videos and imitate what you see.

I don't agree with all DN says or does, but I will say he's absolutely right to knock the lack of civility around here.

If someone has a different view from you, and you want to either change their mind or change your own, a civil discussion helps accomplish that. A flame war just raises emotions and hinders learning.

As to DN's occasional lack of civility in the past, bear in mind that it was in situations which he was pretty much unquestionably (as opposed to merely arguably) correct, that is, in situations of proven theft and scamming. Where it wasn't, he probably now regrets his lack of civility. Even if he doesn't regret it, what difference does it make to any of us, who should, for our own sake, be as civil as possible?

Then again Daniel might be better off remembering that sticks and stones may break my bones but internet **** goes away with a mouse click.

No they don't

This. I'm actually kind of impressed he's jumped in and battled itt, I didnt expect it. Makes him come off as pretty stand up.


A lot of players, myself included, felt a deep sense of betrayal when the rake increases came down. That may not be completely rational or justified, but it was and is imo a big driver of some of the extremely critical attitudes.

I guess I'll point out the obvious here since there's probably lots of people cringing and reading DN's posts as well and just closing out of it. First thing that's painfully clear is that his head has been rammed and jammed with a lot of cringeworthy stuff from that Choice Center cult such as:

Basically fake it till you make it affirmations, which leads to the second point. DN is clearly not congruent to these philosophies since the resentment just oozes from his posts. He's clearly affected/bothered by how he's perceived, naturally, and keeps making long posts which aren't being true to himself, but just regurgitating quotables from Choice Center. The reality is that people went from liking DN to not liking him because of his own decisions and actions. People in these forums don't just randomly hate everyone that's successful. Some people are glorified on here and others hated on, just depends on the person.

And, yet, he does things like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLyaQCkyZKE

wow

edit: just watched this as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcURhcyRqlg

who does that? I would never ever do something like that. no class whatsoever

I agree with a lot of the overall tone of DNs article that poker isn't just easy money. And to make it today especially, it requires hard work.

However, the assertion that the top winning live 2/5 players make 30.00 an hour is just wrong. In fact, I'd say the top 1/2 live players make that much or close to it.

Sick first post bruh.

No in general it is full of really well rounded and balanced individuals with great well argued points, sort of a debating forum for poker geniuses.

If those two videos are the worst behavior you can find when dnegs is like the most televised player of all time I think that supports the opposite of what you're arguing as both of those incidents were extremely minor..

This thread is ridiculous, an embarrassment to poker.

"Pound the pot" or pounding the pot is an old saying that was used to refer to aggressive raisers. Whether Daniel said he's going to 'pound you back' or 'pound it up' is irrelevant, both the dealer and Daniel knew that he meant he was raising, AND, he said it before any chips went into the pot.

I'm surprised that any well known players post here at all with the constant sh*t slinging on NVG.