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02-28-2012 , 08:25 PM
mood swings based on bankroll and staying up to chase loses is not very professional at all.
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02-28-2012 , 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyluscylus
mood swings based on bankroll and staying up to chase loses is not very professional at all.
Ok, fine. Substitute staying up all night chasing losses to staying up all night cause the game is too juicy. In the end, same liability to me as a potential employer, that is an employee whose lifestyle will invariably compromise their performance.
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02-28-2012 , 08:42 PM
Poker doesn't provide that many opportunities at all that the same hard work and dedication in real life stuff doesn't. The only way you get anywhere in poker is making money and making connections to people who might give you opportunities. Yeah, the money could come rapidly, take forever, etc. The same goes in the real world. Going to school, joining clubs, yawnnnn takes a lot of time as well. Making connections to other people who have prestigious careers (aka networking) is the same as in poker. Both take hard work to succeed more than the norm or be in the gutter. I don't see where these massive opportunities with poker comes from. It allows freedom to do what you want and be your own boss, but you can do the same thing IRL if you work as hard as you do at poker.
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02-28-2012 , 09:00 PM
daddy, i dont care what u think, i do what i want. cheers
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02-28-2012 , 09:11 PM
autonomy. The best feeling in the world
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02-28-2012 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xalas
If you Son is Randy Lew you'll be ok
If you Son is Viktor Blom, Be sure to make him a room because he's moving back in!
LOL
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02-28-2012 , 09:57 PM
Some of the posts ITT are ridiculous.

The idea that making $30/hr is somehow not "making a living" is ridiculous. There's a large portion of the USA that not only makes less than $30/hr, but isn't capable of making that much.

Both my parents make way less than that and always have, making that much would be a huge step up for them.

Federal minimum wage in the US is $7.25, I'd love to know where 20 year old kids are wandering in and getting jobs that pay four times that much.
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02-28-2012 , 10:15 PM
IMO you need to be "making a living" from poker for more than 4 years to be considered a professional poker player. Lolz
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02-28-2012 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jdock99
Ok, fine. Substitute staying up all night chasing losses to staying up all night cause the game is too juicy. In the end, same liability to me as a potential employer, that is an employee whose lifestyle will invariably compromise their performance.

I regularly play poker. I made 30K last year. You'd be a fool not to hire me because of that. I am a top performer in my job (IT), always been. I am competitive and have a strong drive for excellence. I am more motivated than most of my co-workers and have been promoted to a leadership position because of that. The same reason I am good at my job is why I started playing poker and got moderatey good at it. Would I be more effective in my job if I didn't play poker? Probably. I always had hobbies outside of work/study though, so if I didn't lose sleep over poker I'd lose it over something else. Not sure if it would make that big of a difference. Also many people with no addictions/passions whatsoever still lose sleep because they stay up late watching TV etc. It's a question of discipline more than anything else.
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02-28-2012 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jdock99
I am an amateur poker player and even played semi-professionally/professionally for a number of years when the games were a lot softer. I understand 100% what it takes to be a professional poker player, and admit I wouldn't have been able to do it for the last 4 years probably.

That being said, it would take a lot (and probably be impossible) for me to hire someone who took a few years off after college to play poker and was just trying to come back into the work force.

In my mind there would be just too much of a risk such a person still played recreationally and their job performance would suffer due to some of the baggage that goes along with the gambling lifestyle that I understand very well (ie no appreciation for hourly wage, staying up too late chasing losses, mood swings based on how bankroll is doing, losing interest in work and possibly deciding to quit if doing very well at the tables, etc.)

If anything, I think it actually would work in the poker players favor the general public is not very aware of the average poker players lifestyle, because although they may underestimate the skill/discipline involved, they probably also do not understand all the baggage someone who was/is immersed in such a lifestyle carries around.

I work a job and play semi-professionally on the side. I have never had any problems balancing the two and not having wins or losses affect my work.
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02-28-2012 , 10:42 PM
OP is trolling.
no way some kids dad made a 2p2 account in 2006
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02-28-2012 , 11:50 PM
The way your kid makes money in life shouldn't have anything to do with how proud/unproud of them you are. (Unless it's some illegal activities of course) How people make their coin doesn't define who they are as a person, and those who think so highly of themselves because of the $ they make are full of arrogant hot air.

Be happy that your kid is so good at a game that he can suppoprt himself through life with it. If they are happy, you should be. Why does the way your kid makes a living connect with your feelings about him/her?

Be proud of the type of person they are, not the way they make cash.

IMO of course.
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02-28-2012 , 11:50 PM
OP def resembles luckychewy.
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02-29-2012 , 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by starvingwriter82
Some of the posts ITT are ridiculous.

The idea that making $30/hr is somehow not "making a living" is ridiculous. There's a large portion of the USA that not only makes less than $30/hr, but isn't capable of making that much.

Both my parents make way less than that and always have, making that much would be a huge step up for them.

Federal minimum wage in the US is $7.25, I'd love to know where 20 year old kids are wandering in and getting jobs that pay four times that much.
I agree with the poster who made the original comment, if you're only making $30/hour playing online poker then I don't even know if I would call them a "professional player". Sure, many people make less than that on an hourly basis but they're also working 40 hours a week.

What % of online professionals play 40 hours/week or more? Somewhere between 1-3% probably? The average is probably around ~20-25 hours a week if I were to take a guess. Online poker is a very mentally taxing and draining game which makes it very hard to put long hours. That $30/hour suddenly works out to not very much overall income when all said and done.

Additionally, as a professional player you're not building your career or resume nearly as much as you would be in another field. After four years of not working a job and all you have to show for it is "playing poker" that doesn't exactly lend itself to a stellar interview. While I think there are lots of skills gained by being a professional, they aren't perceived as we would in the real world.

Sure, I guess $30/hour as an online player would be enough to get by, but I would seriously consider another career if that was what they were making.
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02-29-2012 , 12:27 AM
OP's is luckychewy's father.
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02-29-2012 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Aqalung...
It's been now about 4+ years since my son has chosen to be a professional poker player. In the beginning I had some doubts that he could make a living doing it, but he has proven to me that he can. I am proud of him. Of course, I still have, at times, a hard time comprehending the sums of money he deals with when buying into tournrnaments and playing mid and high stakes. I guess, growing up in a different era (pre-internet) makes me feel that way.
I'm curious how other parents feel about when their sons or daughters decided to make poker their living.
You probably won't find out here. You are the first parent of a player I've seen since I started reading 2+2. You will likely get many not-so-serious responses in this particular forum.

Many family members don't want their person playing poker. They don't understand the game. They think it's pure gambling. I'm 51 years old and my sister doesn't approve of me playing poker, even for fun.

Poker is full of life-skills lessons. If your son is successful at poker, you should be quite proud.
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02-29-2012 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by sajeffe
You probably won't find out here...You will likely get many not-so-serious responses in this particular forum.
I realize that now...never mind.
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02-29-2012 , 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Loki7
I regularly play poker. I made 30K last year. You'd be a fool not to hire me because of that. I am a top performer in my job (IT), always been. I am competitive and have a strong drive for excellence. I am more motivated than most of my co-workers and have been promoted to a leadership position because of that. The same reason I am good at my job is why I started playing poker and got moderatey good at it. Would I be more effective in my job if I didn't play poker? Probably. I always had hobbies outside of work/study though, so if I didn't lose sleep over poker I'd lose it over something else. Not sure if it would make that big of a difference. Also many people with no addictions/passions whatsoever still lose sleep because they stay up late watching TV etc. It's a question of discipline more than anything else.
THIS!
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02-29-2012 , 03:11 AM
never mention poker in a job interview


ever
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02-29-2012 , 04:00 AM
$30/hr * 40hrs/wk = $1200/wk =

$4800/mth

- $800/mth rent
= $4000
- $800/mnth food/ misc.
= $3200
- $1000/mth health/dental ins.
= $2200
- $300/mth cable/phone/elec
= $1900
- $400/mth car expenses (no loan)
= $1500
- $500/mth ROTH IRA
= $1000/mth for emergency/savings/birthdays/holidays/hookers/other investments (vending route maybe?)

Above model is based on a "nonballer", single, semi responsible way of living. Obv not paying taxes on cash game winnings (which im sure many poker "pros" do not do, despite what they say).

Lol @ kids thinking you cant live on $30/hr tax free.

OP..... View NVG as strictly entertainmemt. 15% news, 85% good theatre. I say good for your kid even though hes a geek.
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02-29-2012 , 04:00 AM
70 posts and no Chainsaw photoshops?!?
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02-29-2012 , 06:10 AM
lol its easy for any parent to approve of any field of profession if they rank amongst the best within in
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02-29-2012 , 06:28 AM
30$/hour is def enough to make a living...

but what about the -1k/hour when on tilt/bad run?
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02-29-2012 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Aqalung...
I realize that now...never mind.
but are you impressed by the detective work itt?
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02-29-2012 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pr0wler
I agree with the poster who made the original comment, if you're only making $30/hour playing online poker then I don't even know if I would call them a "professional player". Sure, many people make less than that on an hourly basis but they're also working 40 hours a week.

What % of online professionals play 40 hours/week or more? Somewhere between 1-3% probably? The average is probably around ~20-25 hours a week if I were to take a guess. Online poker is a very mentally taxing and draining game which makes it very hard to put long hours. That $30/hour suddenly works out to not very much overall income when all said and done.

Additionally, as a professional player you're not building your career or resume nearly as much as you would be in another field. After four years of not working a job and all you have to show for it is "playing poker" that doesn't exactly lend itself to a stellar interview. While I think there are lots of skills gained by being a professional, they aren't perceived as we would in the real world.

Sure, I guess $30/hour as an online player would be enough to get by, but I would seriously consider another career if that was what they were making.
lol... well yeah, I guess if you're allowed to choose your own definitions for the word "professional", then maybe he's a professional, maybe not.

Also... if he plays 40 hours a week he's somehow now a professional, otherwise he's not?
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