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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
The #1 issue with re-entry tournaments is that it makes the field in the endgame much tougher. When the top pros are firing as many bullets as they can, and the satellite winner or recreational player is firing an expected value of between 1 and 2 bullets, the field becomes way tougher.
In the final few tables, the fact that there are so few soft spots left means that the rec players have fewer chances to take chips from each other to get to where the big money is, and have to beat out a tough few tables of top pros.
In the long run, I believe the effect is that more rake goes to the casino, the recreational players' -EV is more diluted among the casino and the pros, rec players have a lesser chance of winning and entering future big buyin tournaments where they are -EV, and nobody benefits, except the casinos.
I agree this is the key issue. However i believe what you are saying is not quite so.
1. If we are assuming the "pro" player to be the top players there is always a small amount to them relative to the rest of the field.
2. If you play better, you tend to win more vs lose more. Especially when u are really bad you tend to lose quickly and have a much higher chance to re-buy.
3. Most players that play a poker tournament play more than just one in their live and as such are actually pretty prone to re-buying. In my experience live and online people re-buy a lot, whether good or bad.
4. If players play to bust, its usually -EV negating the entire point we are making anyway (i.e. IVEY example)
Even if this skews the player composition negatively, there are many other effects that are positive for the game.
If the beat-ability or rake due to changed player composition would be an issue this could be solved very easy with other measures (such as putting some of the rake back to players in other ways).
However I agree its important to think about this aspect much.
Overall though i can't see that live re-entries are creating a real problem, but i see many positive effects they have.