If you want to discuss and/or comment on what you believe to be censorship on 2p2, please go to ATF.

Bit of a derail, but I have to agree...

If someone posts a dumb comment, it will be flamed anyway and dealt with in an organic fashion. Unless someone's spamming, repeatedly trolling the same point, posting something completely off topic with no context, or uttering a serious threat, I see no reason why comments should be deleted.

All this threatening to ban ppl is outrageous, and I have to call SGT RJ out here because I haven't seen that level of censorship / policing from any mod on these forums ever before

I'll take the under on ten. When I saw this thread yesterday I did every imagine Google search for outed players since I would swear I read an article about one years ago. Yet I couldn't find anything. Everything I found consisted of rumors, innuendo, gossip, etc. It's actually somewhat amusing to read what gets perceived as "clues" of homosexuality. (e.g. I've worked in college athletics for almost 20 years. A while back, I discovered that people thought I was gay simply because I am assigned mostly to our women's sports teams. My response: "if I was gay, wouldn't I want to work with all of the men's teams?")

Also, I'm glad someone mentioned the Todd Glass appearance on Maron's podcast. I suspect much of Glass' reasons for concealing this part of his life, then revealing it now, match that of Somerville's.

Finally, to those who say the risks of enduring violence or verbal attacks from bigots is exaggerated -- I actually agree with you. Sure, we still learn of incidents of anti-gay violence, and any search for a news story on the subject yields thousands of results. But I suspect the overall acceptance-to-persecution ratio of the gay community is better than the media would suggest, perhaps because of some availability heuristic at work. Hell, Somerville himself has voiced his surprise by the positive response to his blog, as if he had braced himself for some backlash.

The way I see it, if Somerville felt those risks, then they were real to him. So facing those fears is a courageous act, and I say good on him for doing it. As has been said already in this thread (and again on Somerville's Twitter feed) coming out shouldn't be a big deal. One day it won't be. But even in the 21 century, it still is.

Any chance at deleting my earlier post referencing the Tom Marchese post? It wasn't him and I fell for someones sick level.

Got to agree here. She's been too heavy with the mod button and unreasonable in cases such as the urubu thread.

As for this Jason guy...never heard of him before. Aceviv nailed it earlier on, who really cares if you're straight or gay? It's not like you're suddenly going to start having sex at the tables or acting different. While on this issue with a slight deviation; what's with all this "gay pride" days/events, it's not like there's "hetero pride" days / events.

there's a "ladies events" discussion sowhere in NVG; you can read that and pretend it's about your question.

when gays are treated equally, we'll stop throwing it in "your faces". Until then, you best believe there will be gay prides in most major cities, as there should be.

I live in UK, gay people have an equal chance of getting employment as heterosexuals, there's laws about this stuff. I don't follow where this supposed unequal treatment is meant to be. In fact, I fail to see where sexuality comes into it at all if you turn up to an interview in business attire, the rest is just your personal life. I guess it's like having black pride marches and then being called a supremacist if you have white pride marches.

I applaud these "courageous" posts.

lol at laws dude.

UK is prolly a little different than the States but lol at thinking white straight protestant males arent still far and away the top dogs. It doesnt have to be blatent for discrimanation to exist you know.

yeah

a lot of the struggle that gay youths face comes from the feeling of being marginalized or alone. "gay pride," and respected public figures coming out, for that matter, adds to a feeling of belonging. I don't think heterosexuals or white people need that as desperately as homosexuals and some other minorities do.

Ricky "TT_Fold" Fohrenbach teased me for sharing one of those "if you support gay marriage, "like" this" pages on Facebook. his reason was that clicking like, or changing your default picture, does nothing. Normally I would agree, but I think there's an exception with gay rights and a few other causes. visibility and a display of public acceptance is so damn important for the progress of civil equality.

As Daniel himself doesn't seem to have a problem with joking about that particular subject, I don't see why anyone else should:

https://twitter.com/#!/RealKidPoker/...03690653691905

I've never heard of hate crimes against white folks. Or teenagers committing suicide after getting bullied in high school because of their straight orientation. Until things like this stop occurring towards the LGBT community there will always be a need for awareness.

It really depends on the society you live in. If you live in a hispanic dominant area and you're white then as a caucasian male you're going to feel like a minority and may even face discrimination as a result of it. I can imagine in schools it's good to have someone "cool" come out in public which might make life a bit easier.

Really? It happens in the UK and i'm sure it happens in the US and elsewhere.

He's only a top online player who also crushes live. Not to mention his training videos are easily some of the best in the business.

Wow so much fail. Everday is pretty much a hetero day in the world.

it seemed like a safe assumption that in the context of this conversation white people were a majority, or at the very least not a targeted minority.

There can't be any discrimination against gays in the United States. After all it is the land of the free.

Lol what?

Also Negreanu just made a blog giving his 2 cents which was cool; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLiGJFTSMZ4

And finnaly props to jason for doing what he has done, i personally couldnt care less what his sexual orientation is. His eating cake series on youtube is awesome though

Honestly never heard of him before, I don't follow tournaments.

I don't see where this supposed affliction comes into every day life if you live in a modern society. Sexuality just doesn't come into every day situations unless you make it. Maybe if you're walking around in tight hot pants, a rainbow coloured string vest and dildo round your neck it might be an issue, otherwise not.

I am happy for Jason because he is obviously going to be a much happier person now, and I can't imagine the weight that has been lifted off his shoulders. What it must be like having that "talk" with family and friends... Now that its over and this is behind him he can be the same ol' guy you knew before. Best of luck going forward Jason!!

They don't call you SGT for nothing, glad 2p2 has you around to police every post (in NVG) I sure hope they are paying you well.

Please stop derailing the thread, go cry about it in ATF.

JFC, this.

If you have a problem with the way this or any other thread is being moderated, take it to ATF.

jason is the reason i started playing poker when i watched his vids on PITR almost six years ago. cheers mate word up