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Jamie Gold looking to make first final table since the 2006 ME Jamie Gold looking to make first final table since the 2006 ME

07-02-2015 , 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cantrell
Nah you're right, pretty sure he offered half his ME action to someone, and in return that someone would get some D list celebrities to wear some sort of patch for a business Jamie was affiliated with?

I might be totally off, but he did owe someone half his ME win, and pretty sure it was taken to court and settled out of court shortly after.
Cantrell:

The story I got from a dealer in Tunica was that Mr. Gold was initially disputing there was any staking agreement or that he sold any of his action in the Main Event. Even when he was threatened with litigation, he still refused to pay, so the individual alleging there had indeed been an agreement went to court and filed a complaint seeking damages and a breach of contract. Mr. Gold's response to the filing was that there was no such agreement and he, therefore, owed nothing.

I'm paraphrasing what this dealer told me, (and it's anybody's guess as to the reliability of his source of information), but the situation changed dramatically during discovery. The individual who Jamie claimed he "owed nothing" had surreptitiously recorded a telephone conversation between the two of them in which the agreement was allegedly reached. Once that recording was played back to Mr. Gold and his attorney, Jamie quickly (and quietly) reached a settlement and the lawsuit was dropped.

Again, there's no way to know if this is an accurate account of what actually occurred, (Jamie has never confirmed or denied any specifics concerning the litigation), but it's a fact that a lawsuit was filed and a settlement was quickly reached shortly after the filing. I suppose the lesson of this story is that if you sell a percentage of your action in the Main Event, go on to win $12 MILLION, and then attempt to stiff your backer; be sure not to make your agreement over the phone or via a text message.
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07-02-2015 , 05:13 AM
Haime is a nice guy.
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07-02-2015 , 05:25 AM
Jamie Gold Eliminated in 5th Place ($120,952)

Alex Lindop opens to 225,000 from the button and Jamie Gold moves all in immediately from the small blind. Yorane Kerignard folds from the big blind and Lindop quickly calls.

Lindop: Jc Js
Gold: Ah 5c

The flop is 10d 8c 2c which keeps Lindop and his jacks in the lead. The turn is the 4s to give Gold an inside straight draw but the river is the Qh and the 2006 World Series of Poker Main Event Champion is eliminated in 5th place for $120,952.

Jamie Gold - Eliminated
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07-02-2015 , 05:48 AM
Checking the WSOP delayed stream, Gold seemed to lose patience towards the end of the night and wanting more action as his stack dwindled during his last few hands.
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07-02-2015 , 06:48 AM
Once the guy rivered 10s he was done.
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07-02-2015 , 07:10 AM
I find it amazing that despite hours of documented evidence of angleshooting/bad sportsmanship/almost outright collusion; coupled with a pretty clear attempt to stiff his Main Event backer (an occurrence very adeptly summed up by Mr Lawhon a few posts above); there still seems to be a 'Jamie's a really good guy' crowd ITT.

I guess it's just the contrarian nature of 2p2.
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07-02-2015 , 07:32 AM
People who think "Jamie's a nice guy" can't read people.
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07-02-2015 , 08:12 AM
Jamie is a top-top classy guy.
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07-02-2015 , 08:50 AM
For some reason i always thought he stiffed chan, did chan have any piece of his main event or was he just his tutor.
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07-02-2015 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeDiego
I find it amazing that despite hours of documented evidence of angleshooting/bad sportsmanship/almost outright collusion; coupled with a pretty clear attempt to stiff his Main Event backer (an occurrence very adeptly summed up by Mr Lawhon a few posts above); there still seems to be a 'Jamie's a really good guy' crowd ITT.

I guess it's just the contrarian nature of 2p2.
like i said i've played with him a lot and he's always made the table fun and not just with his awful play. he always gotten ripped to shreds and still been nice to everyone at the table. that's a far cry from the way most people act at the table.
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07-02-2015 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
from watching tons of streams I can say that it doesn't seem like the tanking every hand is prevalent except for around 1% of players. as for the last part of the sentence....god forbid people try to focus and play their best when playing for hundreds of thousands of $$$.
i've watch cash game streams which are entertaining and i've watched tourny streams and had to stop watching them because they are so boring.the tanking stuff is terrible for poker- and that's not "playing your best" when done for clock reasons it's angel shooting.

if you wanna say "god forbid people try and focus" that's fine. but my point was gold and guys like him are great for poker and people who take 4 days to act every hand, are anti social etc are terrible for it . nothing you just said disputes that.hell if by some miracle i finaled tabled some huge event I might do the same thing- and donks like gold would be way better for tv/streams than I would be.

and you know what a lot of these guys i've seen in tourny streams I've played 5/10 and 10/20 nl with and they pull the same crap and suck all of the fun out of the same.Obviously these guys aren't the same ones I've seen playing super high stakes cash games.
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07-02-2015 , 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerclann1
For some reason i always thought he stiffed chan, did chan have any piece of his main event or was he just his tutor.

You're getting your stories mixed up. See Alan's summary, or the link I posted above.
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07-02-2015 , 10:27 AM
Top-top! He said he's got top-top!! Top pair top kicker!! Top top!!!
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07-02-2015 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph Hewes
People who think "Jamie's a nice guy" can't read people.
Agree 100%. He was also known to be quite shady and unethical as a supposed 'Talent Agent' and then in the 'production' business. He failed miserably in any business venture he got into. even after taking down the main event for a ton of money. Everything he is a part of or has touched has been a train wreck with law suits, disputes, partners breaking off, etc. Then there is the part where he tried to stiff his partner/backer in the ME. That is documented in a court of law and was settled out of court once he realized the evidence was too overwhelming against him for him to just keep saying there was no deal.

What about this guy would make you say, 'Hey, he is a good guy.'? Just because he talks a lot and smiles a lot. Think whatever you want about his poker play, but as a human being.......................
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07-02-2015 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeDiego
I find it amazing that despite hours of documented evidence of angleshooting/bad sportsmanship/almost outright collusion; coupled with a pretty clear attempt to stiff his Main Event backer (an occurrence very adeptly summed up by Mr Lawhon a few posts above); there still seems to be a 'Jamie's a really good guy' crowd ITT.

I guess it's just the contrarian nature of 2p2.
+1000
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07-02-2015 , 11:58 AM
Jamie seems like a shady character for sure, but for entertainment value hes pure gold. If I were to set up the most entertaining table it would consist of the following:

Jamie Gold
Tony G.
Phil Hellmuth
Tom Dwan
Victor Blum
Mike Matusow
Sam Farha
Phil Ivey
Doyle
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07-02-2015 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
i've watch cash game streams which are entertaining and i've watched tourny streams and had to stop watching them because they are so boring.the tanking stuff is terrible for poker- and that's not "playing your best" when done for clock reasons it's angel shooting.

if you wanna say "god forbid people try and focus" that's fine. but my point was gold and guys like him are great for poker and people who take 4 days to act every hand, are anti social etc are terrible for it . nothing you just said disputes that.
To the second paragraph: I didn't dispute it because I agree with you. I was just pointing out why it happens and that it's reasonable.

As for the first one: as I said, you're completely overstating how often long thinking happens when people don't have a decision. It's not angle shooting, it's balancing your timing tells. If you act in 5 seconds with the nuts and think for 30 seconds about a tough decision, that's not going to go well for you.
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07-02-2015 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
To the second paragraph: I didn't dispute it because I agree with you. I was just pointing out why it happens and that it's reasonable.

As for the first one: as I said, you're completely overstating how often long thinking happens when people don't have a decision. It's not angle shooting, it's balancing your timing tells. If you act in 5 seconds with the nuts and think for 30 seconds about a tough decision, that's not going to go well for you.
it's not balancing when everyone tanks preflop as you get close to the bubble. it's not balancing when every hand takes 5 mins to play.it's a snooze fest and makes spewy fish leave when in a cash game and turns people off to tournies.

and sorry no but you don't have to take 30 second (which would will rapid speed for some of the clowns) every time you act. guess what you can act extremely fast 99% of the time and still be balanced.

then you get people who see this crap on tv and do the same exact nonsense in trvial spots over and over again.

when you get even 3-4 people doing this garbage in a cash game the action grinds to a screeching halt.

Last edited by borg23; 07-02-2015 at 12:31 PM.
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07-02-2015 , 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
it's not balancing when everyone tanks preflop as you get close to the bubble. it's not balancing when every hand takes 5 mins to play.it's a snooze fest and makes spewy fish leave when in a cash game and turns people off to tournies.

and sorry no but you don't have to take 30 second (which would will rapid speed for some of the clowns) every time you act. guess what you can act extremely fast 99% of the time and still be balanced.

then you get people who see this crap on tv and do the same exact nonsense in trvial spots over and over again.

when you get even 3-4 people doing this garbage in a cash game the action grinds to a screeching halt.
Kind of agree with this just based on the dozen or so tournaments I played. I don't think I played a single tournament at Rio or PH that averaged better than 10-12 hands per hour. Even at the beginning of the tournaments. It was unreal how slow the pace of play was. Made the PGA Tour look speedy.
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07-02-2015 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Jamie seems like a shady character for sure, but for entertainment value hes pure gold. If I were to set up the most entertaining table it would consist of the following:

Jamie Gold
Tony G.
Phil Hellmuth
Tom Dwan
Victor Blum
Mike Matusow
Sam Farha
Phil Ivey
Doyle
I miss old-school poker.
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07-02-2015 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LimpDitka
Jamie seems like a shady character for sure, but for entertainment value hes pure gold.
This is why I love Jamie. He's so entertaining. You got the ME when he won, you got the times on HSP when he got crushed by Farha and split that big pot with Patrik, you got the hand when he sucked out on Timex in a big tourney, you got the "top top" moment, etc. Sure he's a scumbag, but just like a trainwreck you can't help but want to watch.
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07-02-2015 , 01:17 PM
From what I hear, this guy is dead broke, I believe he had to pay off his backer from his WSOP ME win.

No way this guy is leaving in Malibu, unless it is on someone's couch, basement etc.

This is Gold's first significant cash in some time

The last decade has been rough on this guy.
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07-02-2015 , 01:21 PM
Another reason why Jamie Gold is hilarious:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha-InF9OU2E
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07-02-2015 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by highstakesfan
From what I hear, this guy is dead broke, I believe he had to pay off his backer from his WSOP ME win.

No way this guy is leaving in Malibu, unless it is on someone's couch, basement etc.

This is Gold's first significant cash in some time

The last decade has been rough on this guy.
That's what happens when you use up all of your luck in one tournament.
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07-02-2015 , 01:32 PM
Jamie is just entertaining -- don't know what it is.
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