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05-11-2013 , 02:40 AM
http://www.mediafire.com/?nk3vm37wgv5ug0k

here is one audio file
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05-11-2013 , 02:42 AM
TMakar I know this has been asked before but hopefully you could answer:

Why are you presenting this information now, and not in the past?
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05-11-2013 , 02:45 AM
Here is the meeting file hosted on my MS SkyDrive:
http://sdrv.ms/12nx2d8
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05-11-2013 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by noobpoker
TMakar I know this has been asked before but hopefully you could answer:

Why are you presenting this information now, and not in the past?
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...00/index6.html
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05-11-2013 , 02:47 AM
OK, got the entire thing up.

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05-11-2013 , 02:51 AM
here is the other audio file
http://www.mediafire.com/?90l3o01r20qjfob
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05-11-2013 , 02:55 AM
TY Travis from the entire poker community, your help here is appreciated by all.
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05-11-2013 , 03:14 AM
Just got back to this thread. I can host all the files on my web site. I'll send you an e-mail.
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05-11-2013 , 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
OK, got the entire thing up.

This is amazing. Thank you! A room of people who stole $18million with godmode software and squandered millions in the IPO discussing how to cover it all up lol. This is priceless.

Is Hamilton the guy that says he stole 360k from Prahlad and claimed $5.2million of stolen funds on his taxes?

lol there is even a reference to the owner of iovation stealing a few million.

Last edited by donkiman; 05-11-2013 at 03:43 AM.
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05-11-2013 , 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bageled
What about the thousands of players who are signing up to UP and are unaware of any of this information? How do they get "notified" about Iovation/Pierson connection to UP and his past with Hamilton UB?

I am thankful for 2+2's posts and info on online poker scams. Just wow at all of this.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...hread-1327080/
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05-11-2013 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PokerXanadu
Just got back to this thread. I can host all the files on my web site. I'll send you an e-mail.
I think the important next step now is to go to the gaming commission, is there anything we can do at this point to get it to their attention- and who knows they too could be corrupted significantly?

Isn't this damning evidence that could send all these people to jail?
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05-11-2013 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TMakar
here is the other audio file
http://www.mediafire.com/?90l3o01r20qjfob
What is on this recording?
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05-11-2013 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by noobpoker
I think the important next step now is to go to the gaming commission, is there anything we can do at this point to get it to their attention- and who knows they too could be corrupted significantly?

Isn't this damning evidence that could send all these people to jail?
Call CNN, Foxnews etc...

let them know
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05-11-2013 , 03:37 AM
60 minutes might be interested as a follow-up story
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-4633254.html
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05-11-2013 , 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ElevenGrover
Yeah, its been about 13 months for the film but it does feel like 4-5 years of seriously following the case. I'm not saying Leggett gets a pass. I'm saying that out of all the involved actors, he gets brushed as worse than his actions warrant. The UB founders (ie Greg guided by Dan) slowrolled the investigation to the point they pissed off people who were willing to do more to get past the scandal. They went out of their way to make Leggett look stupid and compromised by laying those bs stories about RAID failures off on him. The guy who truly looks evil is Uri Kozai for covering all the tracks.
For what it's worth -- which ain't much -- this is how I read your initial statement of "painting Leggett more favorably then previously planned." At no point did I think you would completely exonerate him.

Since you yourself used the analogy of a "nut low," where would you put Leggett knowing what you know now? In other words, if Pierson or Kozai are the equivalent of a No. 1, what is Leggett? Maybe a smooth eight?
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05-11-2013 , 03:51 AM
They are starting to talk about how to benefit from US legislated poker in the future in California at about 2:30:00. Clearly Iovation had been looking forward to this for a long time...
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05-11-2013 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by noobpoker
I think the important next step now is to go to the gaming commission, is there anything we can do at this point to get it to their attention- and who knows they too could be corrupted significantly?

Isn't this damning evidence that could send all these people to jail?
First step is to wait for a response from the NGCB to my e-mail letter.

However, there is nothing stopping others from contacting them on this issue as well. Just be polite and to the point: the founders of Iovation, which is providing services to UP, have direct connections to the UB scandal. I don't think it is appropriate at this point to ask the NGCB to investigate the UB scandal itself as that is not directly within their mandate. It may come eventually however as part of any background investigation they launch as regards their licensing of CAMS, LLC (and Iovation).

There will also be an opportunity to bring the Iovation issue up at the NGCB public hearing that will follow the UP 30-day trial. I am monitoring the NGCB web site for an announcement of the date and time. It may be part of their first June meeting on the 5th & 6th in Carson City.

E-mails directly to UP on player concerns regarding Iovation would also be in order.

And media coverage, like what is being suggested here, could help as well.
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05-11-2013 , 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by donkiman
This is amazing. Thank you! A room of people who stole $18million with godmode software and squandered millions in the IPO discussing how to cover it all up lol. This is priceless.

Is Hamilton the guy that says he stole 360k from Prahlad and claimed $5.2million of stolen funds on his taxes?

lol there is even a reference to the owner of iovation stealing a few million.
The lawyers then acknowledge the fraud and try to figure out ways to make stolen funds appear to be won legitimately. Unbelievable.

Then a mention of Annie Duke using the cheating tool hahahaha. This just keeps getting better.

And now they are suggesting that the current owners of AP payback players even though all the people in this room are the ones who actually stole it all hahahahahahaha

Now someone (Greg?) is trying to justify stealing a few million with godmode (suggested $7 million) in order to stake sponsored pros for high stakes games and put people in golf tournaments wearing UB patches lol wuuuut thhheeeee fuuuuuuuk.

Reminder: These people are still millionaires and live in the US.
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05-11-2013 , 03:58 AM
Re. Annie Duke using God Mode on a 15 minute delay, are there any quotes out there from here saying she hadn't head of God Mode until the community did?
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05-11-2013 , 04:02 AM
audio file one

http://www.mediafire.com/?nk3vm37wgv5ug0k

audio file two

http://www.mediafire.com/?90l3o01r20qjfob

i am working on the rest of the files pokerxanadu.com gave me a ftp site to upload everything on
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05-11-2013 , 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK
Entire video here, link active in 10 minutes.

At around 1:55 discussing assets does it say Russ has a piece of Iovation?
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05-11-2013 , 04:12 AM
05-11-2013 , 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by donkiman

Reminder: These people are still millionaires and live in the US.
These people are still getting a piece of every $ you bet on UP and many sportsbooks.
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05-11-2013 , 04:22 AM
05-11-2013 , 04:23 AM
Am I allowed to suggest people bombing Iovation's facebook page asking them how a company can claim that they are "preventing companies from cybercrime" when their CEO was involved with the stealing of eight figures from the poker economy?

If so.... https://www.facebook.com/iovation
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