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11-29-2008 , 08:06 PM
I hope people will do something else at the time of the 60 minutes airing I love poker and I don't want it to go away

Last edited by gregorio; 11-30-2008 at 08:25 AM.
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11-29-2008 , 08:13 PM
Called both numbers and left messages. The 2nd number seems like a fairly direct line to 60 minutes, as they promise to return your calls. The recording on the first number says that they are unable to return calls.

Also, LOL @ their operating hours - something like 10:30-11:30 AM, and 2:30-3:30 PM mon-fri.
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11-30-2008 , 04:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill Haywood
A better 60 Minutes number:

(212) 975-2006

Fax: (212) 757-6975

great, just what they need, a bunch of idiot 20 yr olds jamming up the lines
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11-30-2008 , 10:54 AM
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It might not be that bad. It could be, but if the content really is that bad, nothing we do now will change that. I'm just going to hope that they go into details and perhaps show it in a slightly less damaging light.

I don't really blame them for wanting a catchy segment up, it's just that this one is obviously terrible for us. Wait and see, imo.
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11-30-2008 , 11:00 AM
E-mail sent.
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11-30-2008 , 12:07 PM
I'm concerned about them referring to online-poker as 'illegal' and not at all making the distinction that it's generally not illegal for an individual to play on these sites. People really do hear that stuff and I fully expect my Mom to report that somebody warned her that I better stop playing because they heard on CBS that it's illegal.

I'm also concerned about the tone of the people from these forums not coming across well and sounding like overzealous enthusiasts as they insult 60 Minutes.

But the first part definitely concerns me more because people overreact and can take little snippets of info like that and run with it. My Mom called to warn me about the UIGEA regs that had been finalized a few weeks ago. She left a voice-mail about what she heard on CNN and that it's apparently a big deal and that I have to withdraw all my money right away or else the government would take it. Thankfully I'm more informed on the situation to know that such measures were highly unlikely to be necessary and that everything was fine. But not everyone is as informed or as enlightened as me.

I think the station is responsible when the public comes away with the incorrect impression after seeing the story. They need to be careful with their language so as not to mislead their audience.

Right at the very beginning of the 60 Minutes piece is this inaccurate line. It's illegal to operate a site in the U.S. Just say that. The government is trying to get banks to stop internet-gambling transactions when they see them. Just say that. The banks can't possibly stop them all though because it's difficult to detect. And the customers will continue playing and it's NOT illegal for them to do so. That clarification IS necessary for the story to be accurate. It's disappointing that the language of the story apparently says otherwise.

You can't just say that 'internet poker is illegal' because it simply isn't true for the vast majority of people in the U.S. who have zero intention on setting up a gambling site or on facilitating a transaction. For most people they would just be playing on these sites and there is not language that makes that illegal (by many interpretations) so just blankly calling the whole thing illegal AND leaving the audience with the impression that it's even illegal to play is flat-out inaccurate and I think very inappropriate.
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11-30-2008 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold_O
great, just what they want, a bunch of idiot 20 yr olds jamming up the lines
f'd

I haven't watched 60 Minutes in a long time. Do they still do the viewer comment segment at the end?
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11-30-2008 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
f'd

I haven't watched 60 Minutes in a long time. Do they still do the viewer comment segment at the end?

They eliminated that a few years maybe more. This would have been a great spot for someone to get there viewpoint out there the following week.
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11-30-2008 , 02:12 PM
but are the people watching 60 minutes really fish? i mean if they broadcast this on MTV or something yeah. but the viewers of 60 minutes is old people waiting to die and MICROBOB probably
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11-30-2008 , 02:22 PM
With all the people concerned with there mom watching 60 minutes and turning off there internet access. Move out to your own place please.
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11-30-2008 , 03:06 PM
warrant - I haven't watched 60 Minutes in several years. I will probably be watching tonight just because I know some of the people in the story from around here and I find it all to be somewhat interesting. But it's not 'I have to see this' type stuff for me and if I miss it I'm thinking I might be able to track down the story on the internet somewhere anyway.


real - I'm not concerned with my mom watching 60 Minutes because I can explain things to her. We do communicate and sometimes she sees or hears something about this stuff that she doesn't understand. But she's a fairly typical 'regular' person who would be the type to be in the viewing audience. And if she can get the wrong impression by such a story or such language then obviously many other people can too. That shouldn't be happening. People should come away with an ACCURATE idea of what the legal status is and the line that 60 Minutes uses does not accomplish that.

And if people think it's illegal then they will be afraid of trying it out. And it will only continue the idea that it's okay for media to say, "illegal internet poker" when really they should not be describing it like that.

Try to think things through a little bit. Mentioning my mom was just an example. If people like my Mom happen to see a bit about it where CNN or 60 Minutes said one thing or another then obviously many other people can think the same thing too.
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11-30-2008 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wisehandpoker
I spoke with the people at 60M. The DoJ was adament in this terminology, which is why 60M used it.

So nobody is alarmed that a journalist thinks it's ok that a major media outlet is letting a government department dictate editorial content? That's pretty scary to be honest.

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Originally Posted by ActionJeff
of course it does

this was never a good idea for online poker, EVERYONE knew that even when the idea was first presented, and the people who initiated it were just trying to get their names out for 10 seconds of irrelevant fame. Pisses me off.
This statement is accurate in regards to some of the people involved for sure. But those people are always looking out for themselves.
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11-30-2008 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
I'm concerned about them referring to online-poker as 'illegal' and not at all making the distinction that it's generally not illegal for an individual to play on these sites. People really do hear that stuff and I fully expect my Mom to report that somebody warned her that I better stop playing because they heard on CBS that it's illegal.

I'm also concerned about the tone of the people from these forums not coming across well and sounding like overzealous enthusiasts as they insult 60 Minutes.

But the first part definitely concerns me more because people overreact and can take little snippets of info like that and run with it. My Mom called to warn me about the UIGEA regs that had been finalized a few weeks ago. She left a voice-mail about what she heard on CNN and that it's apparently a big deal and that I have to withdraw all my money right away or else the government would take it. Thankfully I'm more informed on the situation to know that such measures were highly unlikely to be necessary and that everything was fine. But not everyone is as informed or as enlightened as me.

I think the station is responsible when the public comes away with the incorrect impression after seeing the story. They need to be careful with their language so as not to mislead their audience.

Right at the very beginning of the 60 Minutes piece is this inaccurate line. It's illegal to operate a site in the U.S. Just say that. The government is trying to get banks to stop internet-gambling transactions when they see them. Just say that. The banks can't possibly stop them all though because it's difficult to detect. And the customers will continue playing and it's NOT illegal for them to do so. That clarification IS necessary for the story to be accurate. It's disappointing that the language of the story apparently says otherwise.

You can't just say that 'internet poker is illegal' because it simply isn't true for the vast majority of people in the U.S. who have zero intention on setting up a gambling site or on facilitating a transaction. For most people they would just be playing on these sites and there is not language that makes that illegal (by many interpretations) so just blankly calling the whole thing illegal AND leaving the audience with the impression that it's even illegal to play is flat-out inaccurate and I think very inappropriate.
i'm guessing it is illegal.

poker sites set the age at 18 as to when you can play. how many states allow you to gamble/play poker at 18? california, who else?

how many states make it legal for someone to set up a business running a poker game and charging fees and rake? my guess is ZERO

sure, anyone can host a poker game in any state so long as the house takes nothing, but that's not the case here. in a sense pokerstars and all the others are essentially setting up shop in the states and breaking laws. (edit-- or making it possible for the citizens of those states to break a law)

and we have states like Washington that have something concrete on the books.

anyone feel free to correct me where you think i'm wrong.
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11-30-2008 , 07:39 PM
Point please?
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11-30-2008 , 08:01 PM
what channel is it on for Canadians? Also what time does it start. (i dont watch much tv)

is there a link to stream / download it online?
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11-30-2008 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ActionJeff
of course it does

this was never a good idea for online poker, EVERYONE knew that even when the idea was first presented, and the people who initiated it were just trying to get their names out for 10 seconds of irrelevant fame. Pisses me off.
Coming from one of the most effected people of this cheating scandal, even I agree to this as much as UB has ****ed a lot of us, this shouldn't have gone onto 60 minutes. I get asked enough on a daily basis if online poker is "fixed", "rigged", or if anybody cheats, this should create a 10x influx in those questions.
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11-30-2008 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted J
Coming from one of the most effected people of this cheating scandal, even I agree to this as much as UB has ****ed a lot of us, this shouldn't have gone onto 60 minutes. I get asked enough on a daily basis if online poker is "fixed", "rigged", or if anybody cheats, this should create a 10x influx in those questions.
If there is 10x the influx in interest, then some % of those people will be depositing as a result.
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11-30-2008 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zappa
Point please?
point is that it is illegal. and we haven't even touched the question of taxation and how no state is getting a penny besides a few of the online players who are declaring maybe 30-40% of their yearly take just so they can get it into their investment portfolio

yet we have the OP telling everyone to bombard the 60min staff
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11-30-2008 , 08:34 PM
Great, I can already foresee the mass of "I told you so" moments with my parents when they hear 60 minutes spouting off for 61 minutes about how its illegal.
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12-01-2008 , 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by warrantofice
the viewers of 60 minutes is old people waiting to die and MICROBOB probably
Gold. WP sir.
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12-01-2008 , 02:47 AM
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I'm also concerned about the tone of the people from these forums not coming across well and sounding like overzealous enthusiasts as they insult 60 Minutes.

This was definitely the case reading some of the comments on 60min website. Some guy thought it was funny to just keep posting the same comment 100 times, named Wilson. The comment itself wasn't that badly written, but the kindergarten re-posting of it 100's of times screamed 19yr old tard. For most of these uneducated (though successful) poker players I would think a nice donation to the PPA should suffice along with a membership.
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