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How is Annie Duke still appearing on NPR talking about poker? How is Annie Duke still appearing on NPR talking about poker?

10-01-2015 , 12:04 PM
vicki coren atleast would have been relevant

but winning a single table sng in 2004 is probably more of an accomplishment than taking down multiple 1000+ runner mtts with reg infested lineups
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10-01-2015 , 12:17 PM
This is from her Wikipedia page:

In the first two tournaments of the 1994 World Series of Poker, Duke placed 14th and 5th, and finished 26th in the Main Event.[11] Following her move to Las Vegas, Duke continued successfully playing poker on a professional basis through the late 1990s,[1] and by 2000 had 16 in the money finishes at WSOP events, prior to the WSOP World Championship event that year.[10]

From 2000 onward, she became well known for her high profile achievements in WSOP events.[12] In the 2000 WSOP World Championship event, although nine months pregnant with her third child, she placed 10th out of a total of 512 players, which was the second-highest finish by a woman in the event's history.[1][13] She received a WSOP gold bracelet in 2004, placing first out of 234 entrants in an Omaha Hi-Lo Split tournament.[7][14] By July of that year she had become the top female money winner in the history of the WSOP; earning over $650,000 from 25 in the money finishes, including 13 at the final table.[1] Later in 2004, she placed first in the inaugural WSOP Tournament of Champions, beating her brother and nine former world championship winners and winning $2 million.[6][12] In the 2006 WSOP, she was one of only two women left in the tournament when she finished in 88th place with $51,129 in winnings.[15]

In 2010, Duke won the NBC National Heads-Up Poker Championship, winning $500,000 and becoming the first and only female winner of the event as of 2013. Her previous record at the tournament was one match win and five losses.[12][16]

In the 2010 event she came first out of 64 players, including previous winner Huck Seed, and defeated Erik Seidel in the final match.[17]

As of 2013, Duke's total winnings from her 38 cashes at the WSOP is $1,141,567[13] and she holds the women's record for most in the money finishes at the WSOP, ranking 34th overall.[18] In total, Duke has won over $4,270,000 in live tournaments and is ranked as the third highest winning woman of all time, as of 2012.[

I wonder how many of the haters here have a resume' that is 1/10th as good?
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10-01-2015 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by driller
This is from her Wikipedia page:

In the first two tournaments of the 1994 World Series of Poker, Duke placed 14th and 5th, and finished 26th in the Main Event.[11] Following her move to Las Vegas, Duke continued successfully playing poker on a professional basis through the late 1990s,[1] and by 2000 had 16 in the money finishes at WSOP events, prior to the WSOP World Championship event that year.[10]

From 2000 onward, she became well known for her high profile achievements in WSOP events.[12] In the 2000 WSOP World Championship event, although nine months pregnant with her third child, she placed 10th out of a total of 512 players, which was the second-highest finish by a woman in the event's history.[1][13] She received a WSOP gold bracelet in 2004, placing first out of 234 entrants in an Omaha Hi-Lo Split tournament.[7][14] By July of that year she had become the top female money winner in the history of the WSOP; earning over $650,000 from 25 in the money finishes, including 13 at the final table.[1] Later in 2004, she placed first in the inaugural WSOP Tournament of Champions, beating her brother and nine former world championship winners and winning $2 million.[6][12] In the 2006 WSOP, she was one of only two women left in the tournament when she finished in 88th place with $51,129 in winnings.[15]

In 2010, Duke won the NBC National Heads-Up Poker Championship, winning $500,000 and becoming the first and only female winner of the event as of 2013. Her previous record at the tournament was one match win and five losses.[12][16]

In the 2010 event she came first out of 64 players, including previous winner Huck Seed, and defeated Erik Seidel in the final match.[17]

As of 2013, Duke's total winnings from her 38 cashes at the WSOP is $1,141,567[13] and she holds the women's record for most in the money finishes at the WSOP, ranking 34th overall.[18] In total, Duke has won over $4,270,000 in live tournaments and is ranked as the third highest winning woman of all time, as of 2012.[

I wonder how many of the haters here have a resume' that is 1/10th as good?
Ok but she still stinks in any way you can use the word.
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10-01-2015 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by driller
nine months pregnant with her third child, she placed 10th ... the second-highest finish by a woman in the event's history... one of only two women left in the tournament when she finished in 88th place ... first and only female winner of the event as of 2013... she holds the women's record ... the third highest winning woman ...
Hard for me to match any of that. But I'm trying hard to overcome my sexism; trying every new therapy available. For example, I now know that thinking a person is a woman and thinking that same person is staked in a game is sexist.

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10-01-2015 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by driller

I wonder how many of the haters here have a resume' that is 1/10th as good?
Pretty sure none of the haters resumes include UB, Epic Poker or a reality show appearance that gave a black eye to poker based purely on the empty contents of their soul either. Nor do they likely have one of the worst lower back tattoos ever. Seriously with that life choice how can anybody take her serious in regard to her aptitude in decision making.

That said, let's focus on the middling successes of her poker career. That's definitely more important when talking about Annie Duke.
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10-01-2015 , 12:44 PM
I somehow missed exactly why Annie Duke is so hated over the years (other than being associated with bad family + businesses), can someone give me some unbiased cliffs? What has she actually done herself that's caused so much hate?
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10-01-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by dummy101
I somehow missed exactly why Annie Duke is so hated over the years (other than being associated with bad family + businesses), can someone give me some unbiased cliffs? What has she actually done herself that's caused so much hate?
Although I am not aware of every complaint, it seems to me it mostly boils down to selfishness. While she's playing poker, she doesn't care at all about the people she's playing against; treats them like objects. Dnegs has a story about her trolling him over a cup that he was using to drink water.
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10-01-2015 , 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dummy101
I somehow missed exactly why Annie Duke is so hated over the years (other than being associated with bad family + businesses), can someone give me some unbiased cliffs? What has she actually done herself that's caused so much hate?
Just google her name with various words after it, like cheat, scandal and fraud - you'll find everything you need and can make up your own mind.
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10-01-2015 , 02:46 PM
That tattoo.
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10-01-2015 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by datsixonetwo
Just google her name with various words after it, like cheat, scandal and fraud - you'll find everything you need and can make up your own mind.
Had a quick search, she was a paid face of ultimate bet but wasn't involved in the cheating, she paid herself money while working in a business that went bankrupt (not uncommon in the business world at all), and teased Daniel Negreanu about a cup.

Im not getting why this makes her the devil.

Does every pro need to walk around their sponsors headquarters like Columbo? Do people not pay themelves until their largescale business makes a profit? Is Daniel's cup sacred?
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10-01-2015 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dummy101
Had a quick search, she was a paid face of ultimate bet but wasn't involved in the cheating, she paid herself money while working in a business that went bankrupt (not uncommon in the business world at all), and teased Daniel Negreanu about a cup.

Im not getting why this makes her the devil.

Does every pro need to walk around their sponsors headquarters like Columbo? Do people not pay themelves until their largescale business makes a profit? Is Daniel's cup sacred?
do some in-depth research dummy
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10-01-2015 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dummy101
Had a quick search, she was a paid face of ultimate bet but wasn't involved in the cheating, she paid herself money while working in a business that went bankrupt (not uncommon in the business world at all), and teased Daniel Negreanu about a cup.

Im not getting why this makes her the devil.

Does every pro need to walk around their sponsors headquarters like Columbo? Do people not pay themelves until their largescale business makes a profit? Is Daniel's cup sacred?
However did you come up with that nickname?, good self reflection, my compliments, it suits you, seeing your post.
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10-01-2015 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dummy101
... teased Daniel Negreanu about a cup. Im not getting why this makes her the devil.
Every story has at least two sides. But if Daniel's side of that story is accurate, it tells you all you need to know about the character, or more precisely lack thereof, of one Ms. Annie Duke.
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10-01-2015 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bellatrix
Seriously still talking about that one time she won a single table SnG in 2004.
because whoever runs the show thinks it would equal ratings. i suppose we should invite some modern day players, who when asked about any hand would answer either "my hud told me what to do" or "i don't have my hud to tell me what to do, next question"
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10-01-2015 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dummy101
Had a quick search, she was a paid face of ultimate bet but wasn't involved in the cheating, she paid herself money while working in a business that went bankrupt (not uncommon in the business world at all), and teased Daniel Negreanu about a cup.

Im not getting why this makes her the devil.

Does every pro need to walk around their sponsors headquarters like Columbo? Do people not pay themelves until their largescale business makes a profit? Is Daniel's cup sacred?
Sorry to do this but Hi Annie! It has to be her, nobody else on planet who knows poker at all could possibly not know she's scumbag.


here's some unbiased cliffs:
I believe she purchased a house with money stolen from other players through cheating and never returned it
-Multiaccounted on her BF account to win a tournament
-Had access to a program which could see other players cards. Allegedly only used this program when not playing or something and was supposedly involved in its creation.

might be a little off on those notes
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10-01-2015 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Sorry to do this but Hi Annie! It has to be her, nobody else on planet who knows poker at all could possibly not know she's scumbag.


here's some unbiased cliffs:
I believe she purchased a house with money stolen from other players through cheating and never returned it
-Multiaccounted on her BF account to win a tournament
-Had access to a program which could see other players cards. Allegedly only used this program when not playing or something and was supposedly involved in its creation.
-is related to howard lederer

might be a little off on those notes
fyp
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10-01-2015 , 05:48 PM
I was at practically every WSOP from 1992 until 2004. I played in the middle limit cash games....and railbirded the tournaments hobnobbing with the big shot poker players. I was a fulltime gambler but machines were my gig, not poker. I just liked to go to the WSOP every year for fun. Things were cheap downtown. I paid $160 a week for a hotel room at the Budget Inn, 301 S. Main STreet just a few blocks from the Horseshoe. And if you paid more than $5 for a meal you were being gouged. Things are a lot different today. I quit going to the WSOP when it moved to the Rio.

One day at the 2004 WSOP I was in a 10-20 Omaha game downstairs. Upstairs the final table for the $2000 Omaha 8 event was going on. I would take breaks and go upstairs and railbird the table. Eric Seidel was there along with Annie Duke. The last time I was upstairs both Eric and Annie were still in it with just a few players left.

A couple of hours later I was down in the Omaha 8 game when a guy came down the escalator, walked by our table, and said "Annie got the bracelet."
The guy sitting just to my left, in a very irritated voice, said:

"IF SHE HAD A DICK SHE WOULDN'T HAVE WON IT!!!"
"What?" I asked
"IF SHE HAD A DICK SHE WOULDN'T HAVE WON IT!!!"
"What do you mean by that?" I asked

He himhawed around a little bit then said:

"Look, it was down to about 50 players. Annie was in a hand with Robert Turner. It was on the river. She only had a few chips left, not even enough to make a full call. She checked. Turner checked behind her and said 'I refuse to take a Lady's last chips.' Annie rolled over two pair and the 3rd nut low. TURNER ROLLED OVER NUT-NUT!!! IF HE WOULDA BET SHE HAD TO CALL. SHE WOULDA BEEN KNOCKED OUT OF THE TOURNAMENT!!!"

"You saw that?" I asked
"HELL YEAH, I SAW THAT!!!! I WAS SITTING AT THE TABLE WATCHING IT!!! THE BITCH KNOCKED ME OUT TWENTIETH!!!"

I told this story in another forum a couple of years ago. The people wanted to know who he was. Knowing he finished 20th in the event, he wasn't hard to track down. His name was Kent Ervin. He was from Salt Lake City. He passed away in 2010. You can find his picture and obituary by googling his name. Poker is mentioned in his obituary.

The flip side of the story is that, with fifty players left Annie was down to less than 1 bet, but came all the way back to win the event.
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10-01-2015 , 06:06 PM
People don't like her because she is a woman poker player. I heard on NPR that they are discriminated against.
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10-01-2015 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis_Costello
I like this clip though, where she sucks out and then puts her head in Wasicka's lap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYSRmTgqTY0
Paul Wasicka looks pretty good in that video, no ****, no YGOS...ok bye.
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10-01-2015 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rinny
People don't like her because she is a woman poker player. I heard on NPR that they are discriminated against.
Her bad reputation among the players was caused by her belittling many a male player in the tournaments. I seen her do it many times when I was railbirding. The guys just took if off her. But behind her back they didn't like her.

She didn't knock it off until all the cameras showed up in 2004.
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10-01-2015 , 09:28 PM
A cup may have been involed but it was not the cause of the beef between Dnegs and Annie Duke. It was about how she belittled him when he was a newcomer to the tournaments. Little did she know at the time that he was going to outrun her ass in the poker world. After he got established did she ever apologize for it. Hell no. Thats why he still holds the grudge over it.
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10-02-2015 , 05:11 AM
In the first two tournaments of the 1994 World Series of Poker, Duke placed 14th (out of 506 players in a LIMIT event) and 5th (out of 212 players in a LIMIT event), and finished 26th (out of 268 players) in the NLH Main Event.

Following her move to Las Vegas, Duke continued successfully playing poker on a professional basis through the late 1990s, and by 2000 had 16 in the money finishes at WSOP events, prior to the WSOP World Championship event that year.

From 2000 onward, she became well known for her high profile achievements in WSOP events. In the 2000 WSOP World Championship event, although nine months pregnant with her third child, she placed 10th out of a total of 512 players, which was the second-highest finish by a woman in the event's history.

She received a WSOP gold bracelet in 2004, placing first out of 234 entrants in an Omaha Hi-Lo Split tournament.

By July of that year she had become the top female money winner in the history of the WSOP; earning over $650,000 from 25 in the money finishes, including 13 at the final table.

Later in 2004, she placed first in the inaugural WSOP Tournament of Champions, beating her brother and nine former world championship winners and winning $2 million. WSOP ToC was a freeroll - 10 players.

In the 2006 WSOP Main Event, she was one of only two women left in the tournament when she finished in 88th place with $51,129 in winnings.

In 2010, Duke won the NBC National Heads-Up Poker Championship, winning $500,000 and becoming the first and only female winner of the event as of 2013. Another freeroll - by invitation only.

As of 2013, Duke's total winnings from her 38 cashes at the WSOP is $1,141,567 and she holds the women's record for most in the money finishes at the WSOP, ranking 34th overall.
As of 2015 - both Vanessa Selbts and Jen Harman have more WSOP money finishes than Annie. Heck, even Kathy Liebert has more money wins than Duke.

Essentially Annie Duke is the female Phil Hellmuth - she entered nearly every event the WSOP had back in the day (usually 21-30 one-day events per year) - and she happened to cash in a few between 2004-2010.
Her true ROI is probably close to 1 cash out of 20 tournies.

Her biggest cashes were freerolls against a limited/small field of players.

Since 2010, she hasn't cashed in one WSOP event while truly relevant female poker players like Vanessa Selbst, Barbara Enright and Jen Harman are overlooked (and all have more bracelets).

So she has a bracelet - so does Jennifer Tilly and Cindy Violette. When you play 400 WSOP events - you're bound to win one (just ask the Poker Brat).

IMO - Annette Obrestad is a much better and relevant female player who should be interviewed about today's poker world than Annie... and oh yeah, she has more poker winnings than Annie Duke.

Ultimately - this resume ain't as impressive as one might think. Allow any good 2/5 player to rip off the poker community to pay for their expenses and tourney entries for 6 consecutive years - and any one of them (male or female) will have a better record than this. Annie just had good timing. That alone does not make her a great female player.
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10-02-2015 , 05:28 AM
The really funny thing is that at the tournament they are talking about (the Tournament of Champions), they are saying Hellmuth blew up. For all his other faults, if you watch it, you will see that he absolutely ridiculously owns her time after time, playing pretty much perfectly and avoiding many spots he probably should have been eliminated. She just ran white hot, and that's actually why he was really upset.

Obviously, she's on NPR because she said yes when they didn't ask.
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10-02-2015 , 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by driller
This is from her Wikipedia page:

In the first two tournaments of the 1994 World Series of Poker, Duke placed 14th and 5th, and finished 26th in the Main Event.[11] Following her move to Las Vegas, Duke continued successfully playing poker on a professional basis through the late 1990s,[1] and by 2000 had 16 in the money finishes at WSOP events, prior to the WSOP World Championship event that year.[10]

From 2000 onward, she became well known for her high profile achievements in WSOP events.[12] In the 2000 WSOP World Championship event, although nine months pregnant with her third child, she placed 10th out of a total of 512 players, which was the second-highest finish by a woman in the event's history.[1][13] She received a WSOP gold bracelet in 2004, placing first out of 234 entrants in an Omaha Hi-Lo Split tournament.[7][14] By July of that year she had become the top female money winner in the history of the WSOP; earning over $650,000 from 25 in the money finishes, including 13 at the final table.[1] Later in 2004, she placed first in the inaugural WSOP Tournament of Champions, beating her brother and nine former world championship winners and winning $2 million.[6][12] In the 2006 WSOP, she was one of only two women left in the tournament when she finished in 88th place with $51,129 in winnings.[15]

In 2010, Duke won the NBC National Heads-Up Poker Championship, winning $500,000 and becoming the first and only female winner of the event as of 2013. Her previous record at the tournament was one match win and five losses.[12][16]

In the 2010 event she came first out of 64 players, including previous winner Huck Seed, and defeated Erik Seidel in the final match.[17]

As of 2013, Duke's total winnings from her 38 cashes at the WSOP is $1,141,567[13] and she holds the women's record for most in the money finishes at the WSOP, ranking 34th overall.[18] In total, Duke has won over $4,270,000 in live tournaments and is ranked as the third highest winning woman of all time, as of 2012.[

I wonder how many of the haters here have a resume' that is 1/10th as good?
Hi driller:

I'm not disputing any of this. But also during this time period she was playing in some of the ultra-high limit games that existed, and this included games that were as high as $2,000-$4,000. Do you have a report on how she did in these games?

Best wishes,
Mason
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10-02-2015 , 09:13 AM
Can you evaluate a player strictly on live major tournament results? Does she play many major tournaments?

I thought the NBC HU tournament was money added, not a freeroll. In any case, that seems like a significant accomplishment to win an invitational HU tournament against an extremely strong field.

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