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Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills Haseeb Quereshi is a software engineer and is on Yahoo front page for negotiation skills

05-02-2016 , 08:54 AM
I just have 3 words for you all: Dog Is Headsup
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05-02-2016 , 09:49 AM
Is there a market for bloviated code?
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05-02-2016 , 10:17 AM
These app academies need to be banned. There are guys who went to school for 4-6 years to be trained on how to write code. They're now losing jobs to these guys who studied 12 weeks. Many of them aren't even aware of why they're getting laid off and no one will hire them. At the very least we need the UKGC to make some regulations that any company that considers these app academy cheaters has to disclose it in their job listings. Otherwise this is an unfair advantage.

Also as I understand it these graduates all expect to make $250,000 minimum when they graduate. A lot of the companies that I know that are break even or make a small profit after tax incentives are not going to be able to afford software developers and are either going to go out of business or change industries to where they don't need software.

Of course no one is going to go to 4 year colleges for computer science anymore. This is going to cause major problems for universities that have invested millions to have up to date programs. The damage to the economy (or ecosystem) will be massive if we allow all these universities to go out of business.
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05-02-2016 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
These app academies need to be banned. There are guys who went to school for 4-6 years to be trained on how to write code. They're now losing jobs to these guys who studied 12 weeks. Many of them aren't even aware of why they're getting laid off and no one will hire them. At the very least we need the UKGC to make some regulations that any company that considers these app academy cheaters has to disclose it in their job listings. Otherwise this is an unfair advantage.

Also as I understand it these graduates all expect to make $250,000 minimum when they graduate. A lot of the companies that I know that are break even or make a small profit after tax incentives are not going to be able to afford software developers and are either going to go out of business or change industries to where they don't need software.

Of course no one is going to go to 4 year colleges for computer science anymore. This is going to cause major problems for universities that have invested millions to have up to date programs. The damage to the economy (or ecosystem) will be massive if we allow all these universities to go out of business.
LOL, universities don't train good coders. I dropped out to work for two Carnegie Mellon dropouts. Ended up leading teams that have shipped dozens of commercial apps. You don't need school at all to be a good developer, you just need a strong desire to learn how to code well.

Most of what I have learned about programming was entirely self taught. No boot camp either. Better to shut down university CS departments and save a generation from excessive student loan payments.
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05-02-2016 , 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
These app academies need to be banned. There are guys who went to school for 4-6 years to be trained on how to write code. They're now losing jobs to these guys who studied 12 weeks. Many of them aren't even aware of why they're getting laid off and no one will hire them. At the very least we need the UKGC to make some regulations that any company that considers these app academy cheaters has to disclose it in their job listings. Otherwise this is an unfair advantage.

Also as I understand it these graduates all expect to make $250,000 minimum when they graduate. A lot of the companies that I know that are break even or make a small profit after tax incentives are not going to be able to afford software developers and are either going to go out of business or change industries to where they don't need software.

Of course no one is going to go to 4 year colleges for computer science anymore. This is going to cause major problems for universities that have invested millions to have up to date programs. The damage to the economy (or ecosystem) will be massive if we allow all these universities to go out of business.
I am not sure I get how they are cheating or have unfair advantage. If Universities train their students well, they'll have bigger skill edge over someone who goes to 12 week boot camp. Employers hire who can write the best code and not based on who spent more time and money on their education.

Your arguments about Universities going out of business make no sense. There are many non-cs majors they can focus on if they truly can't provide better education in 4-6 yrs than bootcamps can in 12 weeks.
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05-02-2016 , 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
These app academies need to be banned. There are guys who went to school for 4-6 years to be trained on how to write code. They're now losing jobs to these guys who studied 12 weeks. Many of them aren't even aware of why they're getting laid off and no one will hire them.
Guys who go study CS as undergraduates aren't trained to be coders. They are well rounded in theory and practice of data structures, algorithms, security, OS design, high level vs low level languages. Given a choice, I'd go back to university to become more well rounded.

Coding camps are laser focused to train people for junior/mid level developer roles. I don't see how existing university grads with jobs can be displaced by bootcamp graduates. Does it create more competition? Yes. Does a formal degree look better than a twelve week course? Absolutely. Won't phone screens and on sites weed out the good from the bad? Yes.


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Also as I understand it these graduates all expect to make $250,000 minimum when they graduate.
He is definitely an outlier. His salary is more in line with what the some of my peers are making. Credit him for negotiating hard on bonuses and RSUs as well as having multiple offers bid against each other. Anyone hoping to make that coming out is unrealistic.


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Of course no one is going to go to 4 year colleges for computer science anymore. This is going to cause major problems for universities that have invested millions to have up to date programs. The damage to the economy (or ecosystem) will be massive if we allow all these universities to go out of business.
I think universities are doing just fine.
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05-02-2016 , 03:02 PM
Any decent ranked engineering school is extremely challenging. There's a reason a ton of people switch to a business degree.

You learn how to program, and gain the theory... that's so much more substantial than the app academy where you will "learn" Ruby in 2 days.
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05-02-2016 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
These app academies need to be banned. There are guys who went to school for 4-6 years to be trained on how to write code. They're now losing jobs to these guys who studied 12 weeks. Many of them aren't even aware of why they're getting laid off and no one will hire them. At the very least we need the UKGC to make some regulations that any company that considers these app academy cheaters has to disclose it in their job listings. Otherwise this is an unfair advantage.
hm. sounds like schools should be banned.
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05-02-2016 , 05:38 PM
Great post Sreti
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05-02-2016 , 08:27 PM
Olds in this thread.

Have multiple friends who were in App Academy and got jobs at the promised rates within 3 months of graduating. None had any background in computer science. I think people are underestimating the amount of time per day committed in these programs, and the fact that "graduates" are taking entry level jobs from the most part.
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05-02-2016 , 08:28 PM
free code camp takes 800 hours to complete
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05-02-2016 , 10:22 PM
He is obviously going to leave AirBnB in a year or less to launch

A. His own bootcamp

B. Some sort of coaching for coding interviews

C. Some kind of middle man between interviewing potential employees and certifying them so companies don't have to.

There is no other motivation for making this public. And the guy has a website with his full name as the url and claims to give a portion of his salary to charity? Why not just do it without advertising it bro? Plus, known scammer.

Also, it definitely reads like an App Academy ad. Yahoo puts tons of these types of "articles" out that are really just advertising.
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05-04-2016 , 03:50 AM
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It is good time to refresh best NVG photoshop ever.
Gold Jerry, Gold. Ahhh, my first scandal thread i followed, memories.
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05-04-2016 , 03:57 AM
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If it is true, would not be surprised if he got fired for talking about his salary like this, .
As long as they don't give that reason for his firing. Ianal, but most of what I read says that companies cannot fire someone for talking about wages.


"Under the National Labor Relations Act, enacted in 1935, private-sector employees have the right to engage in "concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection."

The language is somewhat antiquated, but according to Estlund, "it means that you and your co-workers get to talk together about things that matter to you at work."

Compensation is one of those things you can talk about."
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05-04-2016 , 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by dstock
As long as they don't give that reason for his firing. Ianal, but most of what I read says that companies cannot fire someone for talking about wages.


"Under the National Labor Relations Act, enacted in 1935, private-sector employees have the right to engage in "concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection."

The language is somewhat antiquated, but according to Estlund, "it means that you and your co-workers get to talk together about things that matter to you at work."

Compensation is one of those things you can talk about."
You're missing the point: Companies have developed all kinds of arsenals to get people to quit or have them fired for something else. You can start making someone feel unwelcomed or subtly disrespected. You can sabotage their work so that there performance looks sub-par. You can withhold valuable information that someone inexperienced like him needs to succeed at his job or certain projects.

You can make up a million ways to get someone to quit or get fired for "cause".

Have you guys never worked in the freaking real world outside of flipping burgers or something? It astounds me that people don't take this into account.

Nvg must really be full of kids that never entered the working world.
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05-05-2016 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dstock
As long as they don't give that reason for his firing. Ianal, but most of what I read says that companies cannot fire someone for talking about wages.


"Under the National Labor Relations Act, enacted in 1935, private-sector employees have the right to engage in "concerted activities for the purpose of collective bargaining or other mutual aid or protection."

The language is somewhat antiquated, but according to Estlund, "it means that you and your co-workers get to talk together about things that matter to you at work."

Compensation is one of those things you can talk about."
Most states are right to work states, and you can fire someone for any reason, cause or no cause. You are quoting the right to form unions which is far different than sharing private company information in public forums. He's not in a union.
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05-05-2016 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SretiCentV
These app academies need to be banned. There are guys who went to school for 4-6 years to be trained on how to write code. They're now losing jobs to these guys who studied 12 weeks. Many of them aren't even aware of why they're getting laid off and no one will hire them. At the very least we need the UKGC to make some regulations that any company that considers these app academy cheaters has to disclose it in their job listings. Otherwise this is an unfair advantage.

Also as I understand it these graduates all expect to make $250,000 minimum when they graduate. A lot of the companies that I know that are break even or make a small profit after tax incentives are not going to be able to afford software developers and are either going to go out of business or change industries to where they don't need software.

Of course no one is going to go to 4 year colleges for computer science anymore. This is going to cause major problems for universities that have invested millions to have up to date programs. The damage to the economy (or ecosystem) will be massive if we allow all these universities to go out of business.
I work with two of these people. If I wasn't able to google their credentials I would have assumed that they are both coding for the first time in their lives (they both have > 15 years exp). They are really that bad.
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05-05-2016 , 09:11 AM
Pretty sure Sreti's post was subtle satire...?
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05-05-2016 , 01:27 PM
I'll be having Haseeb on my pod this sunday night
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05-05-2016 , 04:00 PM
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I'll be having Haseeb on my pod this sunday night
Via teamviewer?
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05-05-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Pretty sure Sreti's post was subtle satire...?
Sure I realize that now.
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05-05-2016 , 05:48 PM
Wow, Haseeb's ego is out of this world. He makes blog posts about how he's able to crush his google interview when he wasn't sure if he had a chance. Ya ok.

I wonder if his employers know that the reason he's not playing poker anymore is because he was blacklisted for scamming.
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05-05-2016 , 07:09 PM
Is Girah his apprentice at Yahoo? Can't wait for the next episode. This plot is way more glamorous then his previous one.
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05-05-2016 , 09:39 PM
I keep hearing that he scammed during girah scandal. Is there any proof or are some posters accusing him of crimes someone else committed? If some portugese guy scammed, why would you blame him for it
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05-06-2016 , 12:33 AM
Wow, Xuan Liu, Olivier Busquet, Dan Coleman, Kitty Kuo, Doug Polk, etc, and now effective altruist Haseeb Qureshi! Have you won podcast awards yet?

I enjoyed Haseeb's "How to Be a Poker Player: The Philosophy of Poker" so I look forward to his altruistic actions.
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I'll be having Haseeb on my pod this sunday night
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