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09-17-2013 , 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by mucksandgravs
It means youre eligible to submit a claim
Although it'll likely be easier WITH an email than without, you don't need an email to be eligible to submit a claim. Anyone can do that starting tomorrow.
09-17-2013 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1938ford
I posted this in the "other" thread, but it seems pertinent here as well.

Okay, let's try to make at least one thing clear. Everybody that has an FTP account with a positive balance no matter what the source of the money originally was should file a petition for remission. If your balance is not correct when you check it on the GCG web site (beginning tomorrow) and you can prove by documentation, or in any other way, why it is not correct your petition should be for the amount you feel you lost when FTP shut down. This goes for every single account holder that does not have a settlement agreement with the DOJ that specifically names and precludes them from filing a claim. People filing should include Red Pros, rakeback affiliates, current employees, past employees, people that made deposits, people that did not make deposits, etc. It costs you nothing to file. Each petition will be reviewed and allowed or disallowed. If your petition is not allowed you will have a chance to appeal. You can then argue why you personally are an innocent victim even though you may fall into one of the categories of persons listed as not eligible for remission.

Everybody here that keeps asking the same questions over and over about their own specific situation might as well stop. Nobody here can answer you. Nobody! Hopefully there will be more information available tomorrow. I am cautiously optimistic that the balances published tomorrow will include adjustments made for almost all of the issues being raised by FTP victims in this forum. If not, and your balance is not correct, you will have to file your own petition, include all the info and proof that you have regarding your own specific balance and wait for a decision from GCG/DOJ. Each case will be decided independently, so people in the same or similar situation may well experience different outcomes, likely based on the quality of the information included in their petitions.
Ford,

I know this is an "individual" question, but it seems to be the case for many people. If you have $100k in your account and played years of high stakes poker, but had an affiliate account and referred a friend or two and received pennies from it, are you there labeled an "affiliate" and ineligible for your poker monies?
09-17-2013 , 04:16 PM
LOL, what part of "Nobody here can answer you" don't you understand?
09-17-2013 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
So now I can't remember if I ever signed up to be an affiliate. I'm 100% that I never referred anyone to FTP and never received 1 penny of compensation if I was an affiliate.
KingKongGrinder - when you talked to them over the phone, did you ask if you were "in their database" of accounts?

Or did they say your information was completely not in their "database" ?
09-17-2013 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
I called them like 4 times to ask them why I didn't receive an email yet and they had someone call me. I have to send an email to info@fulltiltpokerclaims.com It's BS. I never signed up to be an affiliate, just RB. I'm ****ing pissed.
Having not received the coveted email I just called GCG. The lady who answered started reading off all the info we already know and I said yeah I know all that. I said I know someone who was given a reason why they did not get the email and I also would like to know why I did not receive it. She said she would send my request to the appropriate department.
09-17-2013 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by iamont1lt
KingKongGrinder - when you talked to them over the phone, did you ask if you were "in their database" of accounts?

Or did they say your information was completely not in their "database" ?
I was in the database. They knew my screen name and everything.
09-17-2013 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DaBruce
Ford,

I know this is an "individual" question, but it seems to be the case for many people. If you have $100k in your account and played years of high stakes poker, but had an affiliate account and referred a friend or two and received pennies from it, are you there labeled an "affiliate" and ineligible for your poker monies?
Good grief, didn't you read his post. You will find out tomorrow when you file for remittance. Nobody can answer your question today!!
09-17-2013 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sajeffe
I think I was too quick to discard my spam folder. Never once thought this would show up as spam. It's been so long I just don't think about it. Oh well. It'll all work out in the end somehow. But yeah, the people who aren't active in the community anymore who empty their spam folders by rote like me will never know there was a settlement.
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
Hopefully it simply didn't come in yet, Sheryl. If it did and you deleted it, simply apply on the 18th and you'll be fine.

And, of course, you're always welcome back in the Skype group to keep up...even if just as a lurker. It's been too quiet since you left.
Wow. Just checked my mail, careful to scroll through the spam folder. There it was. It arrived an hour after I posted here. Haha.

I really miss the Skype group, Rich. But I took Skype off of my computer because it seemed to really mess with my minimal-everything laptop. Thanks, though.
09-17-2013 , 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by waq
Having not received the coveted email I just called GCG. The lady who answered started reading off all the info we already know and I said yeah I know all that. I said I know someone who was given a reason why they did not get the email and I also would like to know why I did not receive it. She said she would send my request to the appropriate department.
Yes, I got the same thing. I harassed them until they called me back. Maybe they got upset I called so much and made my account an affiliate.
09-17-2013 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
I was in the database. They knew my screen name and everything.
you should be more clear about your acct.


who did you have rakeback under
did you refer anyone through FTP;s own promotions
did you refer anyone through your rakeback provider
did you deposit real money yourself
did you have a positive balance on april 15th?
do you have any outstanding withdrawal issues pre/post a15?
09-17-2013 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
you should be more clear about your acct.


who did you have rakeback under - Rakeback Pros
did you refer anyone through FTP;s own promotions - Never
did you refer anyone through your rakeback provider - Never
did you deposit real money yourself - yes
did you have a positive balance on april 15th? - 10K
do you have any outstanding withdrawal issues pre/post a15? - No
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09-17-2013 , 04:36 PM
were you grandfathered into rb pros or did you sign up through them?
09-17-2013 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by aggo
were you grandfathered into rb pros or did you sign up through them?
I didn't have a RB account and bothered FTP until they gave me one. I then signed up through rb pros.
09-17-2013 , 04:39 PM
I got my email a couple of hours ago, so unless I was the last person to get one, they are likely still going. "Today" doesn't end until midnight which is several hours from now.
09-17-2013 , 04:40 PM
Just checked my spam folder and remission email was in there.
09-17-2013 , 04:41 PM
From GCG:

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On September 16 and September 17, GCG is sending Notices to all potentially eligible Petitioners GCG identified utilizing data supplied by Full Tilt Poker ("FTP"). GCG is in the process of attempting to re-send any Notices that "bounced back" because of an invalid email address or for any other reason.

If you received an email Notice, please be sure to use the logon credentials provided in the Notice when you begin the Petition process. If you did not receive an email Notice and you believe you are eligible to participate in the remission process, please allow 2-3 additional days, as GCG attempts to resend emails, and then you may file a new Petition for Remission.

Also, on September 17, 2013, GCG is sending emails to all players who registered on this website and who were not identified as potentially eligible Petitioners. Such registrants did not receive a Notice with logon credentials. The email provided other important information about the remission process.


On September 18, 2013, potentially eligible Petitioners will be able to submit a Petition for Remission through this website.

The deadline to submit a Petition for Remission is November 16, 2013.
09-17-2013 , 04:47 PM
2-3 additional days is almost enough to take us to next week territory.

at least i haven't gotten the 'registered on the gcg site but is not on the ftp list' email. hopefully i'm in the bounced back category, though not sure why.
09-17-2013 , 04:48 PM
Just spoke with Dwayne at CGC 800 number. First line answerer, not a supervisor.

* I haven't received an email, however he confirmed I am NOT marked as an affiliate. If you call, start by asking if you're marked an affiliate - don't start talking about that you haven't gotten an email. If you can handle the patience, just wait, but I couldn't handle it after reading KingKongGrinder's message.

* I asked when the site would accept logins tomorrow (when they manually throw the switch, midnight, etc?) He said he had no idea.

* I asked if you submit your own petition and don't have a control & petition number, if I was correct asssuming you'd never be given an expected balance owed to you. He said I was correct - without the email, there is no way once you start to "link up" to your account and see what they think you are owed.

* They are re-sending some failed emails.

* No email, I suggest waiting at least a few days to see if it comes in. Submit your own petition, and you'll sit wondering if they agree with your balance for a long time.
09-17-2013 , 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by AnAnonymousCoward
From GCG:
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On September 16 and September 17, GCG is sending Notices to all potentially eligible Petitioners GCG identified utilizing data supplied by Full Tilt Poker ("FTP"). GCG is in the process of attempting to re-send any Notices that "bounced back" because of an invalid email address or for any other reason.

If you received an email Notice, please be sure to use the logon credentials provided in the Notice when you begin the Petition process. If you did not receive an email Notice and you believe you are eligible to participate in the remission process, please allow 2-3 additional days, as GCG attempts to resend emails, and then you may file a new Petition for Remission.

Also, on September 17, 2013, GCG is sending emails to all players who registered on this website and who were not identified as potentially eligible Petitioners. Such registrants did not receive a Notice with logon credentials. The email provided other important information about the remission process.

On September 18, 2013, potentially eligible Petitioners will be able to submit a Petition for Remission through this website.

The deadline to submit a Petition for Remission is November 16, 2013.
excellent post


people should be aware that there is a petition and control # in the email. Be sure to have one or you should begin preparing for the possibility to jumping through more hurdles to get your claim into gcg.
09-17-2013 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatty
Simply NOT true. There are people who will get an email and get a payout. There are people who will get an email and not get a payout. I suspect there are people who will not get an email and GET a payout. And obviously, my 2 year old nephew will not get an email and will not get a payout.
While I imagine some email notice recipients may be deemed ineligible for remission, I think there has been some vetting on who will receive an email notice. I spoke with someone last week who emailed GCG with a question. GCG responded by telling him he is not eligible for remission. GCG included that criteria list that was posted earlier ITT.

On the flip side, there are many reasons those qualified for remission won't get their email...the main one being it getting discarded as junk mail. Everyone with money on FTP should apply for remission -- email or no email.

Last edited by Rich Muny; 09-17-2013 at 05:58 PM. Reason: typo
09-17-2013 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RollWave
. . .hopefully i'm in the bounced back category, though not sure why.
Some emails just don't go through the first time. Sometimes the connection just times out - just like a webpage can stall and you have to hit refresh. If you're sending this many emails, this'll happen.

Typically an email server would try a few more times, increasing how long it waits between tries. (So, generally, you don't even know this is happening with email.)

It's quite possible their system isn't acting like that -- they may have designed it to make a first try for everyone, then start cycling through the failures.
09-17-2013 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
While I imagine some email notice recipients may be deemed ineligible for remission, I think there has been some vetting on who will receive an email notice. I spoke with someone last week who emailed GCG with a question. GCG responded by telling him he are not eligible for remission. GCG included that criteria list that was posted earlier ITT.

On the flip side, there are many reasons those qualified for remission won't get their email...the main one being it getting discarded as junk mail. Everyone with money on FTP should apply for remission -- email or no email.
Rich,

In the case of someone having $100k on ftp, and receiving a few affiliate dollars over the years for referring a friend, I understand that we should file the claim and such....but will the PPA somehow be going to bat for people like this?
09-17-2013 , 04:57 PM
Any of the legal minds know if there's laws one way or the other discussing affiliates and remissions? If so, if there's any case law defining how much of an affiliate you have to be?

I would get having affiliate money deducted, but on a first glance I wouldn't believe they could lawfully deny hundreds of thousands of dollars over a few bucks in affiliate money.
09-17-2013 , 05:00 PM
No email, had rakeback through rakebackpros, and had an affiliate account that earned some money via friend referrals (not much).

Based on the last few posts, I'm pessimistic about the $4k owed to me. Very, very pessimistic.

Sigh.

Note that I'll file anyway, email or not.
09-17-2013 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KingKongGrinder
I didn't have a RB account and bothered FTP until they gave me one. I then signed up through rb pros.
something just isnt right.

you must be forgetting soemthing about your account. having rakeback doesnt exclude you from the process.

      
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