Responsible journalists in the poker media are few and far between though Marco. From the consumer end, we don't care you are right 99% of the time. You screw up 1% on a big issue, everything else is eclipsed.

The #1 no-bull**** source we look to is DiamondFlush for this particular issue. It is a shame that many other sites have tarnished their own brand by releasing junk information.

And while I don't agree with shaming the trigger happy journalists that spout off nonsense, you've got to understand from the consumer end that publishing crap news is playing with peoples minds/lives especially issues as big as this. Some people are going to grab their pitchfork and rile up the townspeople and that should be understood.

Saying the deal is complete and waiting on the judges signature is pretty specific. Based on that I'm willing to give her the benifit of the doubt. Also none of thefolks who previously said the deal was not done have posted to refute what she says.

lol u know wat the best part about all of this is...
we can have any reporter jump the gun and tell us deal is done
but literally NO ONE will be satisfied until PS/DOJ announce it anyway
it dont mean jack **** coming from anyone other than ps and doj
amirite or amirite

book it.

Wait, has someone checked to see if DF is okay?

she's usually on very early in the morning.

According to the latest Eolis article, the DOJ won't accept any deal that doesn't involve repaying players. Hence the Tapie deal not going through.

The judge needs to sign off on the forfeiture agreements, both for FTP assets and PS money.

Usually that's a rubber stamp, but here FTP's assets still have claims (TT lawsuit, the playmoney software lawsuit) and PS needs to admit to facts sufficient to warrant the forfeiture.

Hopefully the TT suit will be dropped since players are getting paid, and PS has to fight the playmoney suit anyway as they were a defendant as well, so they can probably just pass on that liability.

How they handle the admission to facts sufficient to forfeit millions of dollars without jeopardizing their future licensing will be interesting, I had thought they might just drop the civil suit and get their pound of flesh from Isai in a delayed prosecution agreement for his criminal charges, but DF reported that the criminal charges are not in play.

So I'm curious how the settlement is worded, but USAO is given so much discretion in forfeitures that PS could probably admit to nothing more than jaywalking and the judge would sign off.

" but also to predict we are talking about a matter of days before uncorking the champagne in celebration of a sealed deal."

as previously posted, I bought my $15 bottle this weekend and its chillin on ice!

Wendeen Eolis is by no means a "journalist", she's a consultant who claims to have great sources.

Kevmath: what do you think about here statements?

+1

If I had a dollar for everybody who claimed to have great sources in this matter over the past year I wouldn't even care about my FTP money cuz I'd be rich.

I'm trying to make a different point, although I agree with your assessment, too.

If you have one source, you have nothing but a rumor. Maybe that person has an agenda you don't know about, or maybe your source is wrong in whole or in part.

If you have two sources, now you have independent confirmation. So maybe two people are telling you the same thing, or you have a person as one source and a document that corroborates. So now you have a source and an independent source suggesting your source is right.

As a journalist, you're covered. It's less likely you're being scammed, although it is still possible. But your story reads differently. You can say that "multiple sources confirm," or "a source says and documents obtained by x confirm" and even if you turn out to be wrong, your credibility takes less of a hit because objectively, you were more careful than somebody who hears something from one guy and runs with it.

So from where I sit, it doesn't matter whether Newell or Eolis turn out to be right. They screwed up by going to press with a single source, and they deserve whatever hate they get. If they turn out to be right (newell cant, she's already been proven wrong by the lack of an announcement today) it doesn't absolve them of the original screw up that had gotten them hate today ITT.

She didn't say a matter of a few days. A matter of days is essentially unlimited.

What's better.. taking 5 years from tapie to get your money back or not getting it back at all? Essentially that's what the doj has done if this PS deal doesn't go through.

I just saw this.

I don't mean this as a slam at all but where it lies on the ideal to rule spectrum varies widely based on the principles of the editorial board.

But, yeah, it's obviously not a rule in the sense that it can be enforced by anyone outside the media organization. But the frequency with which it gets ignored tells you A LOT about the integrity of the decision maker(s).

not this again. A matter of days would indicate a time frame less then a week. In this case, I beleive her intent is 2-4 days

How about its a matter of a few days

no

http://diamondflushpoker.com/2012/04...act-vs-fiction

Well, I'd say that if DF says it's done, it's done. (And I can't believe I actually posted in this thread - too much wine IMO)..

Still just the Robb Evans reply on pacer. The TT claim was also due for reply today. Cardroom reply was pushed back on Friday to 8/13.

no


if i was a ROW'er and I had the option between the Tapie deal or liquidation/bankruptcy/doj firesale, i take the Tapie deal.

The thing is that this time DF said there were news to come and she has been awfully quiet for such a day...

You know what's pretty sick? I had dinner with Wendeen, my gf and a friend the other night at Borgata. I was so hung up on being stuck that I didn't even ask her about the situation. Pretty epic fail on my part.

well until someone comes on and says the deal has not been signed and waiting on the judges signature I believe Wendeen holds the high position. She has taken a position that no one else was willing to take. It sounds like that the deal was inked Friday morning. Anyone of the other journalist could have said the that if their sources were true and they were willing to share the information. but no-one has.

Because she values giving us the truth more than she values being first. She's being careful, and that deserves respect.