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03-14-2012 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
Hubris- that's the tragic flaw to your gambling heroes and apparently it extends to their hooker wives. My God I am glad that none of these FT people owe me money through FT or personally. If they did I would probably be on a irreversible course of action that landed me in prison most likely.

After reading this tweet is really the first time I felt truly sorry for the folks who had money on FT. On a logical level I still think it was dumb or maybe just naive to have ever trusted that company, but I can't deny I feel for you guys who have had your money stolen and then have suffered insults such as this.
lol
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03-14-2012 , 11:58 AM
lol yeah as dumb as it gets.
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03-14-2012 , 12:19 PM
Seems like alot of posts are being deleted in this thread......
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03-14-2012 , 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ugaistheteam
Seems like alot of posts are being deleted in this thread......
we still have 1380 replies itt; that's more than enough.
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03-14-2012 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ugaistheteam
Seems like alot of posts are being deleted in this thread......
Man, there's gonna be some confused people reading Daniel's post today...
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03-14-2012 , 01:12 PM
Just Watched Lakers/Heat on my DVR. Guess who was sitting courtside, Coltranedog=).
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03-14-2012 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by illious
He got a job as a busboy? Good for him!
+1
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03-14-2012 , 01:18 PM
I too don't understand why all of these posts are being deleted. The man clearly had some experiences with Negreanu, Flack, E-Scum, and Co., and told his stories just like many posters on here relay stories. Yet his post and all of the posts associated with it were banned. Why?
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03-14-2012 , 01:19 PM
lol, some people should be banned by law from social media/portals and the like. blogs, facebook, youtube, twitter etc... They are just to friggin dumb to be able to reach such a broad audience, in fact, they endanger themself by it.

we dont sell guns to everyone or give everyone driving licensce, do we? Or well, i guess it depends on where you live.
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03-14-2012 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyIllini
I too don't understand why all of these posts are being deleted. The man clearly had some experiences with Negreanu, Flack, E-Scum, and Co., and told his stories just like many posters on here relay stories. Yet his post and all of the posts associated with it were banned. Why?

Because he didn't identify himself.
It was a new account made by a troll that spewed nonesense with no proof at all, that was the difference...

I'm pretty sure if he posted on his main account and proved to be some poster we know and recognize which would buy him the legitimacy needed for the outrageous comments he made and presented as 'facts'... he wouldn't have been banned.

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03-14-2012 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyIllini
I too don't understand why all of these posts are being deleted. The man clearly had some experiences with Negreanu, Flack, E-Scum, and Co., and told his stories just like many posters on here relay stories. Yet his post and all of the posts associated with it were banned. Why?
They have a copy of them up on the DonkDown Poker Thread about Erick as well. I believe the Thread title is "Erick Lindgren Busto?"
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03-14-2012 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip-Flop
Because he didn't identify himself.
It was a new account made by a troll that spewed nonesense with no proof at all, that was the difference...
I'd bet money that it wasn't some random troll and that what he said was essentially true. He should have identified himself though.
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03-14-2012 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip-Flop
Because he didn't identify himself.
It was a new account made by a troll that spewed nonesense with no proof at all, that was the difference...
Even still, there are many, many false innuendos made on here that have been allowed to stand. Who is the ultimate arbiter on here? Is it simply a matter of not saying a negative word about Negreanu? Also, shouldn't he have at least been given 24 hours to "identify" himself (even though no one else on here has to)? I'm not sure that such overbearing selective enforcement is a good thing, as one of the reasons that 2+2 has grown so large is due to the free flow of poker sharing information.

I should also add that DN only refuted one remark out of the countless stories that the man told, and that others have corroborated many of the man's stories in terms of DN flirting with being busto and such. That's a huge accuracy rate compared to most posts in this forum.

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Originally Posted by Bolivia
They have a copy of them up on the DonkDown Poker Thread about Erick as well. I believe the Thread title is "Erick Lindgren Busto?"
I'll check that out there then. Cheers! It's sort of shocking/disturbing that 2+2 would take down those posts in just a matter of hours.

Last edited by SGT RJ; 03-14-2012 at 01:36 PM.
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03-14-2012 , 01:41 PM
Ok so I got an infraction for questioning why those posts were taken down, not to mention my post about questioning it was deleted.

Like the others said, the posts definitely seemed genuine, even if he was a brand new poster (if his facts were wrong, then I was fooled, but his tone didn't reek of falseness)...not some random throwing insults around. Also they are relevant to this thread. Once DN defends edog, or talks some nonsense about old school vs new school, then it's fair game for anybody w/ personal info about DN to question his credibility.

Guess it's a matter of time before all posts above me are deleted as well (and all get infractions). Guess I'll be getting another infraction.
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03-14-2012 , 01:43 PM
Trolling gets deleted why is that so hard to understand? lol
It's in the forum rules.
You can argue about what's trolling or not but mods make that call.
I've had many of my NVG posts deleted because they were labeled trolling, few of which I don't think qualified as such and I think some of the NVG mods are very trigger happy but in this case they made the right call imo.
The posts were irrelevant to the topic, were derailing the thread and if you gonna make hard accusations at least we need to know who tf you are don't you think?
Yes this is NVG but there are some serious threads in this section (like the UB and FTP ones) and I think this thread belongs in that category too.
It's like trolling the FTP thread, would you do that?
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03-14-2012 , 01:48 PM
The posts were deleted because they were trolling.

A brand new poster making unfounded and unsubstantiated accusations and gossip about a well known pro is a textbook case of trolling. It actually wouldn't matter who the accusations/gossip were about; anyone making up stories about another person without some idea of who the accuser is and no attempt to establish credibility (other than claiming over and over it was the "real truth", except where it wasn't) would suffer the same fate.

If you disagree with that assessment and wish to discuss it, please go to About the Forums (ATF) and start a thread. All further discussion on this issue will be deleted, as forum moderation issues are off topic and belong in ATF.

/derail
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03-14-2012 , 02:35 PM
I have issues w/ DN defending edog (and I just watched his latest vblog where he spent 10 mins basically defending him, "old school new school, blah blah...20 yr olds don't get it"...how about the mid 30 yr old's like me that's been in poker as long as you have DN and think what edog's doing is scummy. And yes I've loaned out plenty of money over the years and I'm pissed at all the guys that have taken over a year to pay me back, some that have yet to pay me back) so if somebody (an acquaintance of DN's) wants to come on and discredit DN w/ personal info, then I wanna hear it.

Oh and don't say I'm still derailing this thread because couple of my good friends are owed a large sum of money from edog in a few of the leagues they were in together. I also happen to be in a high stakes league w/ edog and fortunately I decided not to book action w/ him this past season. The reason being he pissed me off by paying me a year late 2 years in a row, both times I had to collect from one of his horses when he scored big, and 2nd year even questioning whether our # was right, when he can just figure it out himself from the league page and scores.
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03-14-2012 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SGT RJ
If you disagree with that assessment and wish to discuss it, please go to About the Forums (ATF) and start a thread. All further discussion on this issue will be deleted, as forum moderation issues are off topic and belong in ATF.
For those who feel aggrieved by your actions, I have created a thread in ATF. I hope in the issue of fairness you will leave this post. I have nothing more to say on the matter and have provided a means of communication elsewhere. Now we can get back to the topic.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/55...power-1180349/

Last edited by Masq; 03-14-2012 at 02:41 PM.
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03-14-2012 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
This is just so completely out of line. She must be clueless.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I tweeted back to her that I thought she was rude, arrogant, clueless, and insensitive. I just expected to be ignored and banned, but it hasn't happened, so I guess she received a lot of similar replies.
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03-14-2012 , 03:49 PM
Just read the post that got deleted over on DD. That's some funny s**t if true.

Last edited by Curtlow; 03-14-2012 at 04:12 PM.
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03-14-2012 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by illious
He got a job as a busboy? Good for him!
needs more love
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03-14-2012 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by John Wray
needs more love
Agreed
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03-14-2012 , 05:08 PM
Just watched DN's recent blog.

I think theres a big difference between loaning with no timetable of payment, and making a bet with someone when the time table of payment is clear.

At the time, I thought putting Erik "on blast" for the 100-150k he owed for fantasy was my best course of action for getting paid. In hindsight, there were pros and cons to posting, and it was a decision I debated for a while..

But I will say...if I was in Erik's shoes, I would EXPECT to be outed if I wasn't paying debts. I'll also say, I think Erik is a genuinely nice guy who just has some degen problems (as many poker players do). I wish him the best
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03-14-2012 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Ikavac
He said they weren't his people.

Daniel does have a habit of making insinuations. In his last blog he almost said the word "gay" in reference to a hand he played with Jason Somerville and it was just so ridiculously obvious that it had no comedic value.

Daniel's good though. It's his blog/vlog, they're his opinions and no one forces us to watch/listen.
He has to throw in semi gay bashing jokes because he knows a large portion of the community believe that he is secretly gay. He's got a serious case of the notgays. Still love him... uhhh in a totally not gay way tho.

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03-14-2012 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Il Gatto
They'll put that one on screen when the IRS hauls him into court.
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