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Old 03-11-2012, 05:16 PM   #1251
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Why does anyone believe that anyone in poker can be trusted?
million dollar question....pretty much anybody involved in poker is scum to a certain degree.. lol

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Old 03-11-2012, 05:36 PM   #1252
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Old 03-11-2012, 05:46 PM   #1253
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:27 PM   #1254
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:42 PM   #1255
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Old 03-11-2012, 07:52 PM   #1256
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Not surprise.. To me he is a gambling punk..
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:00 PM   #1257
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Haha, was reading the Ivey LAPC thread and came across this -- isn't this 'e-dog' (what a corny name) there with him?? LOL. SO, he has enough money to do stuff like this but not attempt to make a dent in any of his debts. lol ok.
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:03 PM   #1258
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this is the real side of all these pros, we always see the other side of their lives - fancy cars, hot models, chartered jets, they just suckout every penny from hard working people n lead their extravagant life
What idiot thought that any pro that was spending 7 figures a year to "live" wasn't going bust at some point. The edges live and online are tiny these days. If you just watch some 2004 world series videos you will see donks get stacked off with second pair no draw for their entire buy in at level 1 or 2. I don't even see that at 2 dollar buy ins that often... If athletes like Latrell Sprewell went broke after making 100 million gross went broke then a pro who has grossed less than 1/10th is going broke if he is spending like a super star celebrity...
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Old 03-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #1259
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What idiot thought that any pro that was spending 7 figures a year to "live" wasn't going bust at some point. The edges live and online are tiny these days. If you just watch some 2004 world series videos you will see donks get stacked off with second pair no draw for their entire buy in at level 1 or 2. I don't even see that at 2 dollar buy ins that often... If athletes like Latrell Sprewell went broke after making 100 million gross went broke then a pro who has grossed less than 1/10th is going broke if he is spending like a super star celebrity...

"Sprewell's career came to a premature end in 2005 when he refused a $21-million three-year contract offer from the Timberwolves, which he said would not be enough to feed his children. Since that time, he has made headlines for grounding his million dollar yacht, having two of his homes foreclosed upon, and being prohibited from seeing his children.[1]"

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Old 03-11-2012, 08:38 PM   #1260
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"Sprewell's career came to a premature end in 2005 when he refused a $21-million three-year contract offer from the Timberwolves, which he said would not be enough to feed his children. Since that time, he has made headlines for grounding his million dollar yacht, having two of his homes foreclosed upon, and being prohibited from seeing his children.[1]"

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Old 03-11-2012, 08:45 PM   #1261
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"Sprewell's career came to a premature end in 2005 when he refused a $21-million three-year contract offer from the Timberwolves, which he said would not be enough to feed his children. Since that time, he has made headlines for grounding his million dollar yacht, having two of his homes foreclosed upon, and being prohibited from seeing his children.[1]"

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Old 03-11-2012, 08:55 PM   #1262
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Old 03-12-2012, 12:21 AM   #1263
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apparently it's John Hennigan that owes Daniel 500K
It has to be Layne Flack, LDO. Im almost positive he paid for some(all) of his many stints in rehab(whether he did it pro bono of as a loan, don't know) and prob staked him in tournaments and cash games.

If there's a poster child for a LAG maybe had an edge in 2003 but it a fish now is Layne Flack.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:58 AM   #1264
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Specifically, it's the loose aggressive players whose overall win rate is actually small who are most likely to accumulate a big win and then regress towards the mean. But while they are winning they can look like great players, certainly much better than the tight less imaginative players who actually have higher win rates but smaller variances.

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To your point that there are some LAG players who have been falsely overrated, you are of course accurate MM. However, I disagree wholeheartedly that ABD TAG players have higher win rates. From a low stakes perspective, an ABC TAG player is certainly going to be a winner, but is also going to miss out on several opportunities that a more intelligent LAG player is going to capitalize on which increases win rate. From a higher stakes perspective, an ABC player is practically playing with her/her cards face up, and is even more exploitable by a superior player.

I highly doubt that any of the top handful of cash game players would fit your description of ABC, unimaginative, TAG players.
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:05 AM   #1265
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To your point that there are some LAG players who have been falsely overrated, you are of course accurate MM. However, I disagree wholeheartedly that ABD TAG players have higher win rates. From a low stakes perspective, an ABC TAG player is certainly going to be a winner, but is also going to miss out on several opportunities that a more intelligent LAG player is going to capitalize on which increases win rate. From a higher stakes perspective, an ABC player is practically playing with her/her cards face up, and is even more exploitable by a superior player.

I highly doubt that any of the top handful of cash game players would fit your description of ABC, unimaginative, TAG players.
Just because you play tighter doesn't mean you play ABC.

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Old 03-12-2012, 02:10 AM   #1266
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Haha, was reading the Ivey LAPC thread and came across this -- isn't this 'e-dog' (what a corny name) there with him?? LOL. SO, he has enough money to do stuff like this but not attempt to make a dent in any of his debts. lol ok.
He obv doesn't have any cash for new threads though.
Same clothes as in the Bay 101 pic. Looks like he slept in 'em.

Betchya the car he's been sleeping in hasn't got as much money in the trunk as Mr Lederer's
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:12 AM   #1267
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Old 03-12-2012, 02:15 AM   #1268
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Read a big chunk of this...

my two cents:

Too many posts here seem of people who resent poker and bash probably for not being a winner any more since fishes no longer fold to 3 bets.

People act like poker was always great before Full tilt came around and **** it up. Like now is all Lindgrens fault for being a scumbag.

Historically is always been about crooks and honest players. You think the "gambler word is his bond" was nothing more than a necessity?

back in the day (like today) you had to be careful, but now we idiots who came through rounders and the internet feel like any wanker whoīs been around the block is Kanish and feel like "we belong" if eskimo clark ask us for a stake at the Rioīs WC. We behave like all poker players are the bomb because TV said so.

We deserved this crap, like we deserve our politicians, and that remembers me that I read a post here saying that only pokerplayers are scum and outside poker all people are honest.

WTF?

If anyone here thinks the scumbags in poker are but babys compared with the true sharks in wall street, politics, pharmaceuticals or even the vatican needs to wake up, buddy!

The difference between FT and Madoff is that the three stooges folded for being incompetent at the first roadblock, while Madoff stole for decades and is probably running a new scam from his cell right now, while FT idiots are probably broke with all the accounts frozen.

Online poker and Tv has flush poker with money while us degens looked the other way at pokersites in offshores havens run by crooks with no guarantees as long as we could play and win and now we call foul...

**** us! 24 h ago I thought Lindgren was a "role model" for gamblers like me. Why? because Iīm a donk who belives any crap Negreanu says and because people who knew kept their mouths shut. Letīs not forget that if E-dog had paid the guy who started this two weeks ago he would probably play fantasy with him again next season (that seems to be what they did with Lindgren until he was broke (the real problem here seem to be that heīs broke, not that heīs scum)

So I no longer will vouch for anyone because heīs a friend of a friend or Negreanu says heīs cool in his blog, but letīs not forget that are plenty of stand up guys around who donīt deserve to be put in the same boat with E-dog.

sorry for the brick..

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any photochopers willing to shop Lindgrenīs photo on Richar Pryor in a "Brewster's Millions" picture to end my post ?
This post resonates.. +1
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Old 03-12-2012, 04:17 AM   #1269
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I like how the start of this thread and the ensuing consequences mirrors:

http://gowers.wordpress.com/2012/01/...-its-downfall/

The two being a real life application of this:

http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2008/0...anders-puzzle/

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Old 03-12-2012, 08:02 AM   #1270
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Im not sure what you mean but i agree c8meplacton's made a very good post
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:55 AM   #1271
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Do any High Stakes "Pros" actually have any money?
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:10 AM   #1272
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Old 03-12-2012, 10:22 AM   #1273
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Do any High Stakes "Pros" actually have any money?
Yes HL and CF have money or do you still hope it is ours
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:30 PM   #1274
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LOL, RYO, you are a joke. Anyone with half a brain would not call it much of a leap to take DN saying explicity "I saw a guy last night in SJ, chatted with him for a while, and wont out him publicly. He owes me close to half a million and I'll probably never see a dime of it" as him saying he was scammed out of 500k. If he will never see a dime of it, he was scammed, period. If he had said "the guy is working to pay me off but i likely won't see 100% of that money ever, that would be VERY different but this guy has scammed him by deciding to not ever pay him off anything at all. Nice derail though, waste of my time and I won't be responding again.
so that 500k owed to DN couldn't be the result of something like make-up from a failed MTT stake? it has to be a scam right?

the only reason you have to not respond further is because what you say is complete bull****, not for anything else

the DN-bashing in here really is pathetic
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:52 PM   #1275
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so that 500k owed to DN couldn't be the result of something like make-up from a failed MTT stake? it has to be a scam right?

the only reason you have to not respond further is because what you say is complete bull****, not for anything else

the DN-bashing in here really is pathetic
People don't "owe" make-up.
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