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Old 03-03-2012, 04:28 PM   #151
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It's not free.
OK holmes.
Then you get a one-step pass above people who rummage through free public records to embarrass and humiliate other people, since you apparently paid something for that 'right'.
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obv indictments gotta be indictments for some of the ftp scammers.....


what does howie or fergie owe
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Finally Bill Edler scored 1st in a WSOP event that year for $900k and Erik paid Kirk back, but I remember Kirk outright saying "I wonder what would've happened if Bill Edler never came in first?".
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:35 PM   #154
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OK holmes.
Then you get a one-step pass above people who rummage through free public records to embarrass and humiliate other people, since you apparently paid something for that 'right'.
Glenos I don't dispute that information is far to accessible on the interwebz these days. But my purpose for posting the information is to demonstrate the type of character this guy has. People who don't pay their debts are the SCUM OF SOCIETY!

This country was built by Creditors and their laws written by Creditors. Debtors' rights, even though they have them and have received more in the last century, are not infringed by the posting of these public records. Further, my post was on topic as this thread is discussing how E-Mutt has failed to pay his debts. When people fail to pay debts the creditors usually obtain judgment and proceed to levy on whatever assets are available. In order to discover what assets are available they make use of public records. I was curious to see if E-Dogg was "sitting pretty" and just thumbing his nose at his creditors. It appears that he has hit hard times, but that's what happens when you live beyond your means in a FANTASY LAND on DREAM CATCHER AVENUE
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Looks like everybody invovled with poker was just a big joke of a hoax.
FYP.

I've found Erick to be a real asshat in person, so I'm not surprised. Also, we're talking about a relatively small amount of money, so only an asshat would stiff someone for that amount knowing that word would surely get out in the poker community.

E-Dog should change his nickname to D-Bag.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:40 PM   #156
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"He is an extremely good-natured and generous person who's always up for anything," writes Negreanu of Lindgren in a foreword to his 2005 book, Making the Final Table. "We have endured many of the ups and downs of living the poker life through our 20s, but we are able to keep each other grounded. Of course, we still know how to celebrate when all of the hard work pays off with a tournament win."

Great job of keeping Erick grounded Daniel. LOL!!!


And, in a throwback to his days as a kid in rural California, Lindgren still gets his kicks from playing sports when he takes a break from the poker table. But things have changed since then. This time around he's making $50,000 bets on whether he can slam dunk.

Looks like it's safe to say Erick can't dunk!!!

http://www.pokerlistings.com/poker-p...erick-lindgren
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:44 PM   #157
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FYP.

I've found Erick to be a real asshat in person, so I'm not surprised. Also, we're talking about a relatively small amount of money, so only an asshat would stiff someone for that amount knowing that word would surely get out in the poker community.

E-Dog should change his nickname to D-Bag.

Unfortunately but Lindgren's reputation in the poker community is probably the LEAST of his concerns(remember the email exchange early in the thread?)

Plus, I'm sure Mr. Negreanu will help out his "best man" for some tourny buy-ins until he hits one(hopefully never). I mean, what are friends for???
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #159
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Anybody else remember the time Phil Hellmuth said something like...Erick Lindgren is the most likable guy in poker. I don't know one person that has a bad word to say about him.
Thank you Phil for another one of your keen assessments. It's right up there with your "I'm very impressed with the management of UB. They really have their heads on straight."
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:47 PM   #160
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Barry is about as respectable as poker pros get, don't drag him into this
Every major tv pro is one huge bag of ****, so this means nothing at all.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:48 PM   #161
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As a 65 year old, the best lesson I have learned in life is that you can NOT trust any ( and I mean ANY ) human being concerning these three things:


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3. Power

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This is golden, with less than half the experience as u have I experienced in a hard way n got to be blessed in one way as I have to deal with this early in my life
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:49 PM   #162
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Glenos I don't dispute that information is far to accessible on the interwebz these days. But my purpose for posting the information is to demonstrate the type of character this guy has. People who don't pay their debts are the SCUM OF SOCIETY!

This country was built by Creditors and their laws written by Creditors. Debtors' rights, even though they have them and have received more in the last century, are not infringed by the posting of these public records. Further, my post was on topic as this thread is discussing how E-Mutt has failed to pay his debts. When people fail to pay debts the creditors usually obtain judgment and proceed to levy on whatever assets are available. In order to discover what assets are available they make use of public records. I was curious to see if E-Dogg was "sitting pretty" and just thumbing his nose at his creditors. It appears that he has hit hard times, but that's what happens when you live beyond your means in a FANTASY LAND on DREAM CATCHER AVENUE
That's a lovely narrative and all- and I agree that it's important to pay debts, indeed, that the very existence of mom, freedom and apple pie depends on it- but Lindgren is a huge degen in the poker world and it ain't exactly a secret.

He's the poker equivalent of subprime debt.

So, yes, when Mike Matusow lays off some insane sum to Ted ****ing Forrest about a weight loss prop bet, and when the inevitable happens (Forrest wins, Mike cannot pay), we can lament on poor Teds behalf over the injustice of it all, but you kinda can't help but shrug and say 'meh', whenever someone gets stiffed acting as a creditor for these kinds of degens.

Lindgren is apparently deeper than his dick in financial troubles. When the IRS has millions in liens against you, it's basically GG, life. You're on that treadmill forever. A bunch of people got in a game with him when they knew he had a history of not paying, or best case scenario, paying waaaaaaaaaaaay late and only after aggravation and now they lament?

Yeah. I weep for them about as much as I weep for the bank that kept writing $200,000 mortgages to crackhead welfare mothers, on ghetto houses that now sell for $8000. Yes, idealism about debt and 'the right thing' is fine, but implied risk is what it is.

Anyway, I hear Eskimo Clark is looking for a BI into the Daily $330. Gotta run!
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I'm sorry but u got no taste bro.

This is a sweet place.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/22...186879_zpid/#1
I like that house too. sweet fireplace in the bedroom
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I got in trouble for doing this before on here, but I don't care. MODS this is PUBLIC RECORD and for scum bag deadbeats 2+2 should know what type of scums these people are.

As you can see Lindgren owes the IRS $2,358,995 for 2011 and $1,223,296 for 2010 AND further his house is only worth about $331,557 and finally it looks like he has defaulted on his mortgage at least once. To which I say, why doesn't this moron file bankruptcy??? WHAT A SCAB!!!







IRS : Mr Lindgren can we have the 3.5 million dollars you owe us sometime this week?

Erick : I apologize for the delay, holidays and now moving has tied me up timewise and cashwise. I will have it out to you as soon as i can, no later than next week.

IRS : Um Mr. Lindgren we are still waiting

Erick : Sorry family was in town. Will get a check out to you tomorrow.

IRS : Still haven't received your check Mr. Edog sir?

Erick : Just got back in town sorry. It went out today.

IRS :I don't think it went out, haven't gotten it?

Erick : Hey man just seeing your emails, sorry have been insanely busy with 3 month old, moving and getting back to playing. You have every right to do whatever you would like but i do promise I can get a check in the mail by tomorrow. I am in LA but have to go home tonight after poker to take care of some things. Hope that is ok.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:53 PM   #165
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The thing is though that he has a kid as well. I mean in like 10-15 years from now if Lindgren is still in deep sh*t, the result may end out giving his kid something that the kid did not deserve because of this or any other controversies.
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Old 03-03-2012, 04:55 PM   #166
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I'm sorry but u got no taste bro.

This is a sweet place.

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/22...186879_zpid/#1
That is nice. And only estimated at $1.2 million?!?! G-damn. I gotta move to Vegas.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:00 PM   #167
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my purpose for posting the information is to demonstrate the type of character this guy has.
that's complete crap

you didn't post those screen shots as some kind of selfless community gesture

you posted them because you thought people reading this thread would be impressed with your investigative skills

A: you paid the $59.99 that any idiot can fork over for a background check on someone, or B: were pathetic enough to actually go to the courthouse

either way, you're just a douche trying to get noticed
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:03 PM   #168
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That is nice. And only estimated at $1.2 million?!?! G-damn. I gotta move to Vegas.
Do you know who used to live in that home?

Well I do, it used to be high stakes regular David Grey's place, but he sold it few years ago.
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My favorite part is how disillusioned the "fans" all became once it was revealed that the image various players coiffed on Television was a straight up ****ing hoax and yes, Virginia, by and large, most poker players are total scumbags.

OH MY GOD NOT CHRIS FERGUSON NO! IT CAN'T BE! HE'S QUIET AND IS INTO MATH!

LINDGREN! GOD NO! IT CAN'T BE TRUE! I SAW HIM ON TV AND HE LOOKED NICE!

NOT DOYLE! HE'S LIKE AN AWESOME GRANDPA! NO!

Chimps.
Haha so good, like the rest of your posts in this thread.

It always cracks me up how quick people are to claim someone "is a cool guy" or "seems like a good person". The funnier part is that when people find out differently they always proclaim their shock, rather than thinking "you know, he really never did anything to prove he was a good guy other than have a smile on his face and not rape my dog". Human instinct is jacked up like that.
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So Lindgren owes 3.5 mill to irs, 4mill to ftp, wtffffffffffffffffffffffff

How do you get in such bad shape
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:07 PM   #171
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Say it ain't so edog
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:11 PM   #172
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he always leaves people hanging...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IjdQ...ailpage#t=484s
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #173
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Even then it is likely he wasn't properly rolled to back that stable. In 2007 Kirk Morrison loaned Erik somewhere around $200k. It was supposed to be a real short term loan kind of thing. I believe Negreanu had mentioned to Kirk to not worry about the loan, that Erik was good for it. Since Daniel and Kirk were very solid old friends, Kirk figured he shouldn't worry. Time passed and Kirk kept asking for it back and wound up having to wait to the point where it was really irritating to him. Finally Bill Edler scored 1st in a WSOP event that year for $900k and Erik paid Kirk back, but I remember Kirk outright saying "I wonder what would've happened if Bill Edler never came in first?".

Not defending Erick here, but its just bizarre to see people lend out huge chunks of their net worth just like that.
Degens gonna degen, I guess.

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I got in trouble for doing this before on here, but I don't care.
You should care, this is really out of line, as well as vicious and vindictive.
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Old 03-03-2012, 05:21 PM   #175
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You should care, this is really out of line, as well as vicious and vindictive.
Disagree, the "gloves" came off as soon as it was revealed that FTP and their pros have stolen our deposits. Need to make it clear that they will NEVER again have any shred of marketability, and they deserve to lose everything they have, I had to sell my car because of all of this. They have ruined the lives of tens of thousands of people. It's time to expose them for what they are. I'm only sorry I was fooled by them for so long. Don't believe any of them.
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Let's book em and find out his side of the story. http://www.athletepromotions.com/ath...gccid=10210159
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Some people........I would be sick if I owed someone 50$ longer then a week.
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whos gonna be the idiot that assaults a ftp pro at wsop and gets a lifetime ban from Harrahs lol
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whos gonna be the idiot that assaults a ftp pro at wsop and gets a lifetime ban from Harrahs lol
Do it off premises obv.
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As you can see Lindgren owes the IRS $2,358,995 for 2011 and $1,223,296 for 2010 AND further his house is only worth about $331,557 and finally it looks like he has defaulted on his mortgage at least once. To which I say, why doesn't this moron file bankruptcy??? WHAT A SCAB!!!
Serious question:

How did he make more in 2011 than he did in 2010?
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"Edog is a welcher." - Chino Rheem
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whos gonna be the idiot that assaults a ftp pro at wsop and gets a lifetime ban from Harrahs lol
Why would getting a ban from 1 casino be that big of a deal? (or even 1 set of properties for that matter) Especially for someone that went busto and quick poker to pursue a more traditional job.
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http://www.blindbetpoker.com/profile...-lindgren.html

I love the last sentence. "Erick Lindgren knows a good bet when he sees one, and online poker is as good a bet as there is for him. Expect to see this young gun continue his success in the coming years." Guess they were never in his fantasy league?
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So I'm pretty sure Bobby Baldwin is actually rich. Anyone else?
One of these young guns have to have put a few milli into an investment vehicle after the UIGEA...havent they had to?

Id be curious to know Spirit Rock's financial disposition....unfortunately he isnt the type to just spew info on this stuff on a forum.

Of all the early guys he almost certainly made the most in NLH , and being that he is a hippy/vegan/socialist type I think it be hard for him to blow the money......I mean Whole Foods is hella expensive but...
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whos gonna be the idiot that assaults a ftp pro at wsop and gets a lifetime ban from Harrahs lol
Harrahs should not allow any FTP pro who owes money to the site to play at WSOP. Nor any other tournament or cardroom in the world. They are playing with stolen money.

This is no different than a pawn shop buying goods that they know are stolen. It is illegal. Why should poker be any different?
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This is no different than a pawn shop buying goods that they know are stolen. It is illegal. Why should poker be any different?
Because poker's traditionally been shady and a game played by criminals/outlaws, not socially awkward pasty kids sitting in front of computer screens. The general rule's always been to not ask questions where the money came from.
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I remember that thread about EL not so long ago in fact where everyone was saying he was robusto / set up for life cos of his trust fund background, FTP deal, stables etc.

How things change
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Harrahs should not allow any FTP pro who owes money to the site to play at WSOP. Nor any other tournament or cardroom in the world. They are playing with stolen money.

This is no different than a pawn shop buying goods that they know are stolen. It is illegal. Why should poker be any different?
So will I have to have a credit check run on me every time I walk into a B&M....

Welcome to reality, walk outside that poker/gamer den a few times a month and at least look at girls asses or play some bball or something.

Lol at 18 yr olds on NVG and how removed from reality they are.
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Doyle Brunson claims in his latest blog that he doesn't have much dough. "I'm in the same boat as most FT customers. I had 28k on FT, my son Todd had 30k and my daughter Pam had 5k. So that is 63k of Brunson money that is in dire jeopardy. For those people that say that is a drop in the bucket for me should see my bank statement and look into my lock boxes and see the empty rubber bands. While I'm not going to starve to death, the economy knocked the hell out of my finances"

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-blog...eg-to-stand-on
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Why does anyone believe that anyone in poker can be trusted?
There are plenty of people "in poker" that I trust. The thing is, you should know them personally and know they are trustworthy before you gamble with them, or else understand that you're taking a calculated risk by playing with them that may involve you not getting paid.

"Hey I saw you on the teevee" is not enough to know someone is trustworthy.

Am I disappointed that a poker public figure is busy giving gambling a bad name? sure. Am I surprised? Not really, I mean, I know nothing about the guy personally.
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I remember that thread about EL not so long ago in fact where everyone was saying he was robusto / set up for life cos of his trust fund background, FTP deal, stables etc.

How things change
Yeah somebody said he sold his percentage of Full Tilt for $10 million dollars before Black Friday. How do people conjure up these lies?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:35 PM   #193
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Yeah somebody said he sold his percentage of Full Tilt for $10 million dollars before Black Friday. How do people conjure up these lies?
Remember when people spoke about Ivey becoming poker's first billionaire?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:41 PM   #194
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Yeah another pro said it and it sprouted wings!!!
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:44 PM   #195
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Doyle Brunson claims in his latest blog that he doesn't have much dough. "I'm in the same boat as most FT customers. I had 28k on FT, my son Todd had 30k and my daughter Pam had 5k. So that is 63k of Brunson money that is in dire jeopardy. For those people that say that is a drop in the bucket for me should see my bank statement and look into my lock boxes and see the empty rubber bands. While I'm not going to starve to death, the economy knocked the hell out of my finances"

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-blog...eg-to-stand-on
So what's Doyle's net worth nowadays? 5 mill?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:46 PM   #196
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Dear Full Tilt,
In response to your message about paying you back the $4 million dollars I owe let me just copy and paste Barry Greensteins response and say +1. I would look pretty silly if I gave you guys the 4 million and you did something foolish with it. Besides I'm very busy right now with my 3 month old and could never find the time to mail you a check.

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So what's Doyle's net worth nowadays? 5 mill?
I'll take the under for every penny I have, Alex.
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:47 PM   #198
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"trust fund background"


Lolwhut?

Didnt he lifeguard and prop in his early 20s....those arent exactly trust fund gigs.


I did hear and probably repeat he was super robusto a few yrs ago. Rumor had it he was one of the biggest 2-5 winners in early LHE games, and he was staking a bunch of guys so he had a tonne of cash at one point.

Is Gavin still hooked up with him?

Yikes....tournament poker is such a unsustainable thing as presently structured.
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I'll take the under for every penny I have, Alex.
You ****ing serious? Texas Dolly himself with a net worth UNDER 5 mill ??

Whaaaaaat?
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Yeah somebody said he sold his percentage of Full Tilt for $10 million dollars before Black Friday. How do people conjure up these lies?
It is possible to gamble away $10MM you know?
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