Think if the $2800 was paid earlier. Pretty sure EL regretting that now.

My guess for DN debit is BG!

Pretty sure this is the stuff NVG is interested in, Please tell us Annie Duke is busto

I'll bet anyone $50 it's not Barry. I'm cash broke at the moment so if I'm wrong i will have to settle it later.

Guy who owes a bigger number than Edog - Huck Seed.

Daniel do I recall correctly Phil Hellmuth owed you a large sum a few years back which took a while to get back? Obviously hes loaded so was it just natural for you to think you will get it back without issue so you didn't mind to much when you got it?

I've asked Daniel twice now if he and Erick are still "close" friends and have gotten no response.

Okay, cool - but you also never answered if he owes you a nice chunk of change

My guess - YUP

Lastly Daniel - whether you want to admit it or not - E-Dog being your "close" friend for years will cloud your overall judgement of him and his actions. If this was Howard Lederer doing all this your posts would be filled with HATE and you know it, right???

Lol. Very nice

Sooooo for the last few years EL's been...
Living in fantasy land and betting on fantasy sports with (now obviously) fantasy monies

When i fantasize about something it usually isn't life tilt and eventually going less than busto but whatever floats ya.

Sry for the derail.
Carry on

Like he says, the amount owed to Voulgaris is insanely insane and yet Erick Lindgren payd 80% of it. Let's just say that the amount is 3mm or in that area. Paying upwards of 2,5mil, even tho it takes ages, tells me that he at least wants to be clear of this.

I don't see EL, after reading this, as a scammer or welcher. His excuses are BS and lies, but everything I read about him and his degeneracy indicates that he eventually pays. Even the guys in the HSNL thread says that. After a lot of hassle and needling. As far as I can tell he's never said "fu I won't pay". That has to count for something.

Also, this is really blowing up because it's Lindgren. Had it been someone you could expect this from, like Chino, it would have been more meh. ELs got this clean appearance and seems like a really good guy on the screen and now that he's falling from grace a lot of people seem to really enjoy that. It's like "I knew there was something fishy about that guy".

My intuition is The Mouth owes the big #... pure speculation

How else do you want him to pay everyone back?

When someone busts Lindgren, do they have to wait a couple years for the bounty?

If FTP pay the players 80% in 8 years that's good enough in my opinion.

Seriously wtf is this ****? You make $3m+/year? You pay your ****ing debts before you live like a baller and piss away money gambling.


I can't even imagine the stress this probably caused Haralabous during these years. Not to mention if it's as big a sum as implied it probably cost him a lot of value as the money could have been used in other ventures.
And from his post it seems like he had to spend a lot of time and money to just get these % hes gotten after close to a decade.

cant be annie duke cuz he says"baseball bat to the nuts"
it must be freddy deeb or allan cunningham

gold

I wonder who this guy is that owes Daniel close to 500k? and doesnt expect to see any of it . Could it be a guy like a Layne flack? kinda degen , probally owes a lot.. gets staked(maybe playing for 30-50%). Would need a couple big scores / kinda unlikely

Spectacular post.

how can people say its barry? lol hes nothing like sebok and i guess some are just forgetting how much of a nit barry is. anythings possible but no way i can see him falling that far into debt. matusow, flack, hansen obv much better guesses. know Dn wouldn't loan a large sum to DB, especially since he got pwned by him on HSP

Daniel have any of the poker worlds shortcomings over the last year or so made you want to take a step back form the light and not be a poker hero anymore? On the basis of "you can only be a white knight among thieves for so long"? Also can you describe two interactions (with quotes) with Annie Duke and Howard Lederer that made you say "those people are not MY people." And lastly, what is your favourite poker show you've ever been on? My guess is Million Dollar Challenge but ionno yo. TY

http://www.pokerstatic.com/hot-seat/...bos-voulgaris/

around 37:30 in. No idea if he's talking about EL but it's perfectly possible.

Matasow and gus are horrible guesses. It's not like either of them need to be outed as degens.

'I don't borrow money or lend out money' Sammy Farha

He didn't mention anything about the person owing being a degen only that he likely wont see it... IE. Someone that lost a large revenue stream (FTP)... leads me to guess the mouth

He said he still considers edog a good friend, but doesn't know if the feeling will be mutual after he posts his march 13th vlog.

Everyone itt is missing what the real problem is here



Money is evil, this whole debacle wouldn'tve happened if money didnt exist

The world needs to change to a barter system