There is a podcast on ESPN where Gavin Smith talks about going it on his own this year, for the first time, I guess. I think Edog stopped backing all of his horses some time in 2011.

Instead of being pissed, OP should be happy to have Erick Lindgren owe him 2 grand. Lindgren is a big name, famous pro. He has accomplished great things in poker.

OP should feel honored that Lindgren owes him money. It gives him a cool story to tell people he meets. He should be happy with that and just leave it at that.

^This. High doubt Doyle is under 5M networth.

Perfectly executed

For realz?

Perhaps Joan Rivers was right after all.

"You’re a poker player. A poker player! That’s beyond white trash. Poker players are trash, darling, trash.”

Should PokerStars Ban them as well?

If we banned every poker player who was a lowlife, then we wouldn't have hardly anyone left to play. Sad, but true.

I'm beginning to think she's bad luck. Didn't Benyamine struggle when he was with her and now Erick is having financial troubles.. lol

Every poker player known to man could be a lying, thieving no good broke hustler and they'd still be better person than that pig Joan Rivers ever dreamed of being.


wrt to Edog selling a 1% interest in FTP for $10,000,000,.00 it's possible he never got paid for that. Or maybe didn't get paid the whole amount? He may have agreed to sell it to either Howard or Chris and figured he could just get the money from them later. I'm not saying I know this is what happened but it's certainly plausible.

Why don't u pack n leave to lv or what ever place where u can find so called top pros n clean ur bank roll n get honoured n u can feel good for rest of ur life

I been wondering about one thing about all these full tilt people. Iam not american so dont really understand how this works with IRS. My questions if anyone could answear are.
With DOJ involvemeant and everything is up can DOJ see if all Full tilt board members plus team pros have filled correct yearly form of there incomes.
Is it possible that all these people will get busted now by IRS for as i assume bunch of money. Or did they always give up every penny they earned from Full Tilt and it was all clean paychecks. Has this been looked into now by DOJ or does DOJ have nothing to do with this. Just little hard to understand if people like Ivey were getting 900k per month from full tilt and Erick 250k if they payed taxes from all there incomes.

I feel morally obligated to society to respond to someone who steals from me. If I don't respond, they continue on and will scam someone else.

People change. But if you are an adult and steal from family or friends, or do other ****ty stuff, I do think someone should kick your ass.

These *******s are just enforcing the negative poker stereotypes. I realize the smart thing is to live and let live, but maybe if some of these guys thought serious consequences would arise there would be less scammers out there.

FYP.

Doyle does. Chip Reese did. It wouldn't surprise me if Jennifer Harmon banked a lot of cash since she didn't play much on-line and cut back on playing in the last couple of years. David Grey had basically stopped playing, too. Beyond that, probably not.

Michael Craig's book on the Beal games mentions that only Doyle, Chip and David Grey were playing in the Big game when it started at the Mirage and were still in it when it moved to the Bellagio.

Yep. He was always the biggest degen sportsbettor around. 10k bet on at least 50 games on Saturday and I know he had at least 4-5 spots he was betting. I doubt it was all for him but who knows. ANyway, I was an agent for one of the books and took him 300-400 several times but both times he lost big ( > 300k) he came up with excuse after excuse why he couldn't pay for a few weeks and dragged it out 1 time for over 2 months to where the book wanted to hurt him and I told him to just chill and he'd get it thought I really didn't know. After the way things went down between him and his holier than thou attitude I wish I would've just let the guy do what he wanted to him.
I will say this, he comes across great on Tv just like most ppl like him do.

I actually heard from a good source that he sold his ftp % TO John Juanda for $7 million cash with the terms that he could buy it back withing a certain time frame but that is 2nd hand information and that person doesn't want to confirm that. I would imagine it was to pay sports debts but that is speculation

i'm kind of amazed that something this "well-known" took this long to come out.

Everybody knew he was a big sports better but he always paid though sometimes slowly. People don't usually call out people that need a little extra time to pay because it's bad business.

Great post. Welcome to 2+2, sir.

get off the internet, you stupid ****.

lol good lord

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=164

so making vaguely questionable investments is a more heinous crime than blatant evasion/defrauding. high level trolling itt.

Wow. So now he also owes the IRS 3.5 mil.

This is like another broke athlete that made 100million but has to drive trucks at 50 cause he is broke, and everyone goes wtffd how is this possible?

This, a million times, this.

haha, hadnt heard that, but its awesome

In a few years timen people will realize that the poker boom was actually a poker 'bubble.'Appearantly most of those who we were led to believe were the top earners in the game, pissed most of their winnings away in all sorts of gambling habbits that would make the average person want to puke.