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03-10-2012 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by striker_1
Still i feel she will fold.
Her hand has some showdown value as long as Erick has rich friends willing to stake him in tournaments. Once the stakers back out she def has to release her hand.
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03-10-2012 , 11:17 PM
Best thing about this thread = Degenyamine... Hahahaha maybe i'm just drunk but that's brilliant.
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03-10-2012 , 11:23 PM
3+ years on here and you're just hearing that now? Lol
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03-10-2012 , 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Syphon_Soul
I am Lindgren and not quite 100 million in debt, and I incorrectly think 90% of the losers here are throwing stones from glass houses. People itt talking about him and his problems like theyre superior to him or anybody for that fact. Ruined a good thread
fyp

just kidding, good luck etc. if so.
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03-10-2012 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Syphon_Soul
Id rather be Lindgren and 100 million in debt than 90% of the losers throwing stones from glass houses. People itt talking about him and his problems like theyre superior to him or anybody for that fact. Ruined a good thread
Lol why?? wouldn't it be better not to owe 100mill, and at the same time not be a loser throwing stone from glass houses? I'm guessing you don't consider yourself one of these stone-throwing losers. So what you are saying is, that you would like to be 100mill in debt???
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03-11-2012 , 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fanapathy
Hi,
Interesting post.
Actually this kind of rings a bell. I haven't done it consciously.

Without making a new thread, there are some people who owe me what IMO is a significant amount of money. 2 guys owe me about $2k each and there are a few more in the $500 range. Some I helped out when they were in the gutter, others are from big drinking bills and renting cars. These guys all have the money to pay back, and yet I've confronted them, they've excused/ignored on multiple occasions and I'm unlikely to see money and short of not being friends with them anymore and telling them they've acted scummy; I haven't done anything.

My Q is, and I've been thinking this for a while. Do you think it's fair to out them or make a google hit on what they've done and that they're not trustworthy? Or should I just let it slide and move on.

Thanks, f
OH NOT AGAIN ...
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03-11-2012 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Negreanu
No, I won't see this money cause this guy can't win anymore. If he ever got lucky and had money again I'd expect to get "some" of it. I not see it ever happening though.

I don't see a need to tell people that will never come across him about the fact that he's broke. I think that's just plain mean. I have told any and everyone who may do business with him to be careful. Some aspects of people's personal lives are not NVG worthy, and who owes money isn't something I think everyone needs to know.

It's very, very, easy to "ask around" and when asked, I certainly don't hide anything.
Hi Everyone:

I'm just getting into this thread so perhaps what I'll state has already been addressed, but what is obviously happening here is what statisticians call regression towards the mean.

But in poker, this can take an interesting twist. Specifically, it's the loose aggressive players whose overall win rate is actually small who are most likely to accumulate a big win and then regress towards the mean. But while they are winning they can look like great players, certainly much better than the tight less imaginative players who actually have higher win rates but smaller variances.

Best wishes,
Mason
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03-11-2012 , 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by juke
apparently it's John Hennigan that owes Daniel 500K
What makes you so sure of this? Source?
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03-11-2012 , 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth
Hi Everyone:

Specifically, it's the loose aggressive players whose overall win rate is actually small who are most likely to accumulate a big win and then regress towards the mean. But while they are winning they can look like great players, certainly much better than the tight less imaginative players who actually have higher win rates but smaller variances.

Best wishes,
Mason
+1
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03-11-2012 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mason Malmuth

But in poker, this can take an interesting twist. Specifically, it's the loose aggressive players whose overall win rate is actually small who are most likely to accumulate a big win and then regress towards the mean. But while they are winning they can look like great players, certainly much better than the tight less imaginative players who actually have higher win rates but smaller variances.
So true. However it must be pointed out that the higher stakes LAG will make up some ground in overall earnings, despite his smaller winrate, with the higher likelihood of site deals, sponsorships etc. vs his TAG counterpart. Obvious cases in point I'm sure spring to mind.
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03-11-2012 , 06:13 AM
Good job flipping the script edog, so when u divorce she gets half ur debt
Take that gold digga!
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03-11-2012 , 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by juke
apparently it's John Hennigan that owes Daniel 500K
This is not true.
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03-11-2012 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by AdrenalineKid
that's the great thing, I am not the one hurting for money, so I am not the one asking. I get to make the rules. Do you think I care if joe schmo doesn't want to sign a contact with me and NOT get money?

As for my friends.. well that is up for me to decide, right? If I know them well enough to forgive a debt to them, then obviously I don't care that they don't pay me back because I would just give them the money.
Your correct Kid, when you say its your money & I understand where your coming from.
The problem is, your lucky in life, if you find more than 1 or 2 true friends, ie. people you can trust with your life, they are very thin on the ground.
Only my experience, but hey maybe other people are more fortunate with their buddies than me.

GL.
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03-11-2012 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MilkMan
So true. However it must be pointed out that the higher stakes LAG will make up some ground in overall earnings, despite his smaller winrate, with the higher likelihood of site deals, sponsorships etc. vs his TAG counterpart. Obvious cases in point I'm sure spring to mind.
Hi Milk:

Except that with the collapse of Full Tilt and other cutbacks in our industry, there's not as much easy money around as there once was. So the result is threads like this one.

Best wishes,
mason
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03-11-2012 , 11:04 AM
Read a big chunk of this...

my two cents:

Too many posts here seem of people who resent poker and bash probably for not being a winner any more since fishes no longer fold to 3 bets.

People act like poker was always great before Full tilt came around and **** it up. Like now is all Lindgrens fault for being a scumbag.

Historically is always been about crooks and honest players. You think the "gambler word is his bond" was nothing more than a necessity?

back in the day (like today) you had to be careful, but now we idiots who came through rounders and the internet feel like any wanker who´s been around the block is Kanish and feel like "we belong" if eskimo clark ask us for a stake at the Rio´s WC. We behave like all poker players are the bomb because TV said so.

We deserved this crap, like we deserve our politicians, and that remembers me that I read a post here saying that only pokerplayers are scum and outside poker all people are honest.

WTF?

If anyone here thinks the scumbags in poker are but babys compared with the true sharks in wall street, politics, pharmaceuticals or even the vatican needs to wake up, buddy!

The difference between FT and Madoff is that the three stooges folded for being incompetent at the first roadblock, while Madoff stole for decades and is probably running a new scam from his cell right now, while FT idiots are probably broke with all the accounts frozen.

Online poker and Tv has flush poker with money while us degens looked the other way at pokersites in offshores havens run by crooks with no guarantees as long as we could play and win and now we call foul...

**** us! 24 h ago I thought Lindgren was a "role model" for gamblers like me. Why? because I´m a donk who belives any crap Negreanu says and because people who knew kept their mouths shut. Let´s not forget that if E-dog had paid the guy who started this two weeks ago he would probably play fantasy with him again next season (that seems to be what they did with Lindgren until he was broke (the real problem here seem to be that he´s broke, not that he´s scum)

So I no longer will vouch for anyone because he´s a friend of a friend or Negreanu says he´s cool in his blog, but let´s not forget that are plenty of stand up guys around who don´t deserve to be put in the same boat with E-dog.

sorry for the brick..

PD

any photochopers willing to shop Lindgren´s photo on Richar Pryor in a "Brewster's Millions" picture to end my post ?
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03-11-2012 , 11:56 AM
E-ou
E-broke
E-about to be divorced
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03-11-2012 , 12:56 PM
Chris Rock's taking on owing money. Shows the issue isn't just with gamblers. NSFW due to language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkr1bppT5iI
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03-11-2012 , 01:11 PM
Since this could maybe be somewhat related and since Daniel insist in being such a tease I ask you guys to give me the answer to whom he refer to in this following quote:

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"Personal Stuff
Add up the bubbling the million dollars, getting hacked, and the PokerPlayer magazine article, and it doesn't even come close to the betrayal I dealt with this week on a personal level. I'm shocked and disgusted. This has nothing at all to do with poker, or money, but it is the worst betrayal I've ever dealt with in my life and I am genuinely grossed out. As the title states, it's "Personal Stuff" so I can't go into detail, but it capped off an eventful January in a pretty big way. "
Is it E-Dog? An ex-girlfriend (not the Hungarian model apparently)? A naked Hellmuth in the shower? A veggie-salad with the secret ingredient being pork? :-O
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03-11-2012 , 01:12 PM
I like how the start of this thread and the ensuing consequences mirrors:

http://gowers.wordpress.com/2012/01/...-its-downfall/

The two being a real life application of this:

http://terrytao.wordpress.com/2008/0...anders-puzzle/
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03-11-2012 , 01:18 PM
E-Debt
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03-11-2012 , 01:51 PM
Pretty sure johnny world can still win, and is a cash game beast
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03-11-2012 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by thakidd99
Pretty sure johnny world can still win, and is a cash game beast
He was just playing in Larry Flynt's game yesterday. Looked like he did ok.
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03-11-2012 , 04:16 PM
hmmm....I think Hennigan can still win...

I will guess Farha owes DN.
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03-11-2012 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Texter
hmmm....I think Hennigan can still win...

I will guess Farha owes DN.
Farha? lol, no.
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03-11-2012 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Texter
hmmm....I think Hennigan can still win...

I will guess Farha owes DN.
Farha is a lebanese boss with deep pockets, he doesn't owe anyone, people owe him.

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