I don't really see why it shouldn't be a big deal.

Every person in America has a credit rating that tells companies when to loan them money and how trustworthy they are in regards to paying back loans/whatever. We don't have that luxury as poker players, so when people are not to be trusted, they need to be outted so others don't get screwed.

Dude, this is nvg. We'd sell our own mother for a buy-in over here.

Wonder what odds I could get on Anchorman being Erica Schoenberg???

You just proved Joan Rivers point. Your post just drives home the fact that most poker players are total garbage. Totally devoid of responsibility of their financial obligations and usually in concert with other mental and emotional issues. This just gets reinforced by people like you who seem to think it's good form to screw people over and then pay them off at your leisure. The real world doesn't work that way.

I am glad he posted the truth and outed yet another degenerate. You all want the public and government to take you more seriously, well start acting like adults and lose this entitlement attitude and grow the heck up and man up to your responsibilities. If you can't then stop playing till you can.

Woaaaa, slow down man. Joan Rivers is most likely far smarter than you and probably ****s better than you too.

Yea because the average member of the public is super fiscally responsible

Very true once again. Two points to bring up though.
1. At this point, it should just be assumed all players are capable of non payment on loans and no one should be trusted on word alone. Im not saying all poker players will prove to be untrustworthy, its just that no one should act surprised anymore and learn to move on.
2. As for Eric's situation, people knew the terms and conditions of his money and chose to engage with him either way. Not fair to **** all over him just because this time around you assume payment will not occur as fast as previous times.

1. To a point, sure. But it's pretty hard to fault someone for trusting someone with the reputation that we thought EL had.

2. This is entirely not true. Several people who made bets with him had no idea he usually takes so long to payout. Once again, this is a perfect example of why threads like this are necessary(well, thread..maybe not like this one...lol). People need to know these things.

+1,000,000,000!!!!!!

Heck of a lot more than the average member of the poker world. That is for sure. It's scary how being a deadbeat is ingrained once you enter the poker world. It's a shame, and is a big part of why you are you not taken seriously.

Taken seriously by who exactly?

Why is 'contribution to society' so important to you? And define what it means please

This times a billion. Come on, NVG, I know you recognize a troll when you see one.

http://www.texasholdem-king.com/eric...dane-cook-163/

"I've also heard from multiple sources that Lindgren is very smart with his money, and has many business interests. "

This part made me lol

Yes, I better grovel to the government, a paragon of financial management, after they effectively took my job and most of my capital.

If you think poker players are less moral than other social groups, you don't know other social groups.

If engineers, nurses, teacher, store clerks, whatever, don't scam each other as much, it's only because they don't deal in money with each other like we do.

Some of you need to learn about how often engineers, nurses, teachers, store clerks lie cheat and steal, in little ways, in big ways. Do you even know how scummy the average doctor is, for example? All the ways in which they scam their patients, in return for a piece of the pharmacology pie?

And I haven't even mentioned banks.

Nor the fact that I haven't been scammed out of a penny since about the first year of my 25+ year poker life.

If you loan/stake/bet off the table in this biz, you're doing so because YOU expect to profit. OP was feeding a fish. Others want to be liked, respected, thought of as "one of the guys," whatever. It's all pathetic, and none of the victims should blame anyone but themselves.

The foreclosure victims of the upright contributing-to-society banks, otoh? They were pure prey.

It isn't that poker players are scummy. It's that some of you were previously naive about human nature when it comes to money, which means you're fish in the business world.

I have to think that all the guys bitching about poker players here, when you walk out of used car lot, and the salesman is grinning and you think he sure is a swell guy who really "contributes to society", that you're just dumb enough to think you didn't get scammed.

Now go back to selling overpriced homes to people who can't afford them, but you don't care because you're in it for the commission. Or to giving passing grades to the kids in your algebra class who can't even spell "math" because you suck at your teaching job but need the paycheck, or to getting charges dropped against your legal clients even though you know full well they're guilty, or on and on and on ...

fyp

E-DOG. LOL @ this guy. Good luck getting the money to those he stiffed.

3.5 milly to the irs... oh lawwwwwwd

I am rather disappointed that all threads by Anchorman have disappeared

no, she was actually borrowing from clive davis up until her death. Pretty sure she was borrowing against upcoming album sales due to her being broke.

When did I say contribution to society? I said pay for debts. Big difference.

Tell your bank/credit card company that you're cash broke and can't pay off your debts. See where that gets you.

Movie Name: Owning Mahowny (2003)
Quote:
Psychologist: How would you rate the thrill you got from gambling, on
a scale of one to 100?
Dan Mahowny: Um... hundred.
Psychologist: And what about the biggest thrill youve ever had
outside of gambling?
Dan Mahowny: Twenty.

This imo

You're insanely naive.

Of course. I think most people know this but want to prod Daniel into badmouthing his Edog. It sure would be fun to read if he blasted him.

Cash broke imo