this was a really tough issue i had, but at that time it shouldve been about 80-90% that they repaid the players. I questioned whether or not to say something a lot (and am now questioning this decision obviously).

durrrr did you order the code red?

The fact is when people questioned the integrity/safety of the company, Tom put up his promise to pay the players from his own pocket.

At the time, FTP was still open to the rest of the world and could have been viewed by many as saying......

"Im willing to put up my own money so its safe for you to keep money there" (or deposit)

Maybe he was naive, maybe the players were naive for believing that one of FTPs most prominent Pros was giving the company a vote of confidence and knew more than the players.

A sensible reply thanks for answering. I dont believe they were ever 80-90% to repay players in May specifically after FTPDoug said on here they were having to "raise capital" to pay back players and having huge difficulty processing withdrawls plus facing major legal action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmUw7m_yq7Q

idk i don't think ftp employees making 50k/yr owe anything to the players unless they really should've been able to sniff it out. but i do think that players who were getting 200k a year extra for wearing patches and very little work, while still having enough money to live on, should give some % of the money they made back. especially so because they were all some non-zero % to sniff out the shortfall in player funds (maybe only 1-2% but they still knew the right people n couldve asked questions etc). I don't think they owe it or legally are required to pay, but its the right thing to do imo. and i think i should be penalized for not trying to push that 5% or w/e chance it was i had of sniffing out the hole, and for not having the company audited.

In the future any company i'm affiliated with that either is a bank or acts like one, im gonna make damn sure i get audited. Part of the reason is so i dont get freerolled like i was with ftp (working for nothing), and i think other people should be incentivized the same way.

durrrr,

are we talking about repaying only 2p2ers or everyone?

durrrr : You're god damn right I did!!!

Hell Yeah, I would appreciate a peanut too.

@ Durrr:

i know, this isnt the right place but im curious about it. Are you still in contract with them, so you cant start playing on pokerstars, even if you would like to?

i knew a few parties with varying degrees of interest at this time, and had heard of others. i also had a very accurate picture of the books (from friends having the company audited).

+1, maybe he should've come clean earlier but his intentions definitely seem good

I dont mean to keep pestering you, you gave a good clear answer to my question, however...

You had a clear picture of the books? $360m owed to players and $59m in the bank accounts? Did you REALLY believe 80%+ chance someone took that on with the legal troubles FTP is in as well?

I agree it is the right thing to do.

What I dont agree with is the people on this site that seem to think they are entitled to something from you (or any other pro).

Ok, so why dont you come completely clean now and tell us what the current situation is...........

Just a young guy, trying to do what's best. Didn't realise the hole FTP was in. In my opinion Dwan still God. Isildur1 his father.

"do you still respect durrr?"

yes

In all seriousness, how exactly was a business that was run illegally and under indictment by the DOJ going to enforce a non-disclosure agreement? There are also numerous state and federal whistle blower statutes to give you cover. You really need to hire an attorney and stop winging this as you have no concept of the impact your random statements on here will have on you legally.

In my eyes Durrr is pretty much the only one on team FTP regaining credibility here, do you see any of the others answering questions? None of them did anything to stop this mess and they got paid with player money. None of them have said anything about giving any back and Durrrr has.

Although FTP should have had the players funds segregated.

Cash is not the only asset. There are many other things that could make the value of FTP worth well over the $400m mark. Which would make investors interested in buying it and paying out the money owed to the players.

yes i do

One has to wonder whether the Full Tilt "pros" would have been successful without scamming players and stealing their money. So much for poker being a game of skill. Even if it still is a game of skill the Red "pros" have done irreparable harm to this game by participating in the scam known as Full Tilt. I used to look up to these guys, but now I look down at them and laugh.

As long as durrrr lives up to his promise to pay back players their money I respect him, if he doesn't, then NO!!!

All the pros at full tilt poker were in on the ponzi scheme, no way they didn't know what was going on. Do I hear class action lawsuit against these pros for their involvement? Damn right i do. They were constantly advertising for the company and damn well knew there were no funds.

durrrr your teh Boss!!!

i guarantee all the people voting no itt are broke railtards who just want to talk **** to someone famous so everyone will think they are cool but would really still happily have durrrr's baby if it was physically possible.