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Old 10-29-2012, 01:43 PM   #401
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Re: Diamond Flush Articles: The Distortion of Truth from the Lederer Files

I was always under the impression that Howard and Annie are blood related. Duke is her married name.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:41 PM   #402
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I think you are right. I might be letting my general hate for Sebok cross over here.
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Old 10-29-2012, 03:04 PM   #403
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I was always under the impression that Howard and Annie are blood related. Duke is her married name.
Brother and sister fwiw.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:09 PM   #404
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I am actually kind of worried that something is up now. Like maybe DF has been threatened or told she has to keep quiet or something.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:16 PM   #405
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Also keep in mind she mentioned before she lives in Manhattan or close by. She may not have power, or her place right now.
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Old 10-31-2012, 11:07 PM   #406
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Also keep in mind she mentioned before she lives in Manhattan or close by. She may not have power, or her place right now.
It's been almost 2 weeks. Doubt it has anything to do with the hurricane.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:25 AM   #407
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It's been a while now since part 6.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:31 AM   #408
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https://twitter.com/Diamond_Flush
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@CursedDiamonds , Storm slowed things down a bit more than expected. Hope to publish tomorrow and wrap up on Monday. Sorry for delays.
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@mumbhai ,so sorry for delays,started out w/verifications, then personal emergency,now storm, hope to publish tomorrow and wrap up on Monday

So we can relax Should be an update today and done Monday!
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:27 AM   #409
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@CursedDiamonds , Storm slowed things down a bit more than expected. Hope to publish tomorrow and wrap up on Monday. Sorry for delays.
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@mumbhai ,so sorry for delays,started out w/verifications, then personal emergency,now storm, hope to publish tomorrow and wrap up on Monday

So we can relax Should be an update today and done Monday!
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:51 AM   #410
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I still haven't sat down and read all this series -will be interesting to see which rumours were more true than others.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:36 PM   #411
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I really hope everything is okay with DF, this storm was pretty bad and it sounds like she was caught up in it.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:23 AM   #412
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Chad Elie ‏@BlackFridayChad

“I never met with a payment processor"-Howard Lederer. Interesting Howard,do you not remember the MEETINGS we had?What about NYE?5hr meeting
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:18 PM   #413
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“I never met with a payment processor"-Howard Lederer. Interesting Howard,do you not remember the MEETINGS we had?What about NYE?5hr meeting
oh ho!!

I can't help but wonder what sort of stuff all these insiders may have been telling the DOJ about HL ...

I hope DF is doing okay ...
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:33 PM   #414
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oh ho!!

I can't help but wonder what sort of stuff all these insiders may have been telling the DOJ about HL ...

I hope DF is doing okay ...
I'm sure he's wondering the same thing.

I am ok, ty for asking. Storm was a nightmare, friends and family still without power, internet was out here since Wednesday and just now back on, but I'm lucky to have the electricity and heat. So many people don't even know if they still have a house to get back to, barrier islands still off limits.

I will do my best to publish tonight, and wrap up within the next day or two. Sincere Apologies for the delays, it was certainly not planned, but couldn't be helped.
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Old 11-04-2012, 05:33 PM   #415
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Glad you're ok. No need for any apologies.
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:52 PM   #416
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oh ho!!

I can't help but wonder what sort of stuff all these insiders may have been telling the DOJ about HL ...

I hope DF is doing okay ...
To be clear, I never spoke to the DOJ after I was indicted.

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Old 11-05-2012, 11:36 AM   #417
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How likely do you think it is that Howard will go to Jail? Or be charged criminally
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Old 11-05-2012, 02:48 PM   #418
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0%

Would have already been done. He's just trying to clear his name now. Hope he fails.
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Old 11-05-2012, 04:15 PM   #419
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Part 7 up
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Old 11-05-2012, 05:56 PM   #420
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Maybe this is the wrong place to ask this, but does someone have cliffs of Diamond Flush articles?

Its very tough to track everything that is being discussed and I feel like having short notes on the articles would be very helpful.

A lot of the points seem to be going to deep into the lederer interviews and contesting his claims with outside and unverified (or partially verified) sources, tough to read it and still have a clear idea of what DF is arguing. if what DF is writing is as important as the early articles set it out to be, the info needs to be disseminated to everyone, no?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:35 PM   #421
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"Furthermore, on at least one occasion, Lederer himself emailed the members warning them of the civil and legal liabilities that they could face if they chose to run for, and accept, a Board seat." --

Diamond Flush, from Part 7 of her series: The Distortion of Truth from the Lederer Files.

.............

Evidence of at least one such email; preferably an entire email sent by Howard, please?
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:55 PM   #422
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Re: Diamond Flush Articles: The Distortion of Truth from the Lederer Files

The opening sentence might as well read " In early June 2011, some people ( who may or may not have been shareholders of FTP), may or may not have held a meeting at some person's house in Vegas to talk about changing the board of FTP. You can trust that I know this because I am anonymous as well."
This is literally the equivalent of me posting here that I heard from some people that Howard Lederer was/is lying and when you question me about it, I simply say that I won't reveal my sources. Oh, and I won't tell you who I am either.
If you put a lot of stock in what DF has to say at this point, you are either stunningly, blindly naive or are just too dumb to question what an anonymous person tells you is fact by citing anonymous sources. I not saying she is wrong. Nor am I saying she is right. I am simply saying that everyone should take what she has to say with a gigantic grain of salt and do their own research and draw their own conclusions.
Oh, and HL is a piece of lying ****.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:48 AM   #423
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For anyone who missed it - Chad Elie (processor recently sentenced to 5 months prison) has confirmed that he is one of DF's sources (in the "Chad Elie on Twitter" thread).
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Old 11-06-2012, 03:28 AM   #424
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To be clear, I never spoke to the DOJ after I was indicted.

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They never asked you to cooperate or for info on your alleged co-conspirators?
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:05 AM   #425
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Sam’s investment group, whom some people have characterized as the “white knight that got away”, was also purportedly the same group the the Los Angeles Times claimed was set to buy the company on July 1, 2011.
@DF: By Sam Al-Amiri you mean the former head of derivates trading middle east/asia of UBS and Rabobank? You wanna say that Alpen Partners was the potential investor behind Ivey? - This is a very interesting point you have there. I´m curios to read about that, however i´m fairly skeptical about that point. May your sources are misleading or misleaded.
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