Hey everyone,

I don't post much on here, so I apologize if I'm not posting this in the right sub-section. Mods, feel free to move it elsewhere or let me know.

I just finished watching this great Daniel Negreanu interview that was uploaded earlier this morning. Great stuff on there, BUT, on the 43:00 minute mark, Daniel goes off on a ~10 min rant, discussing the Stars Changes.

I know there's been a lot of hype over the last few days, so I thought I'd post it here for people to see. I've seen a lot of Tweets from people asking him for comments, so I guess, here you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82lwBYQ2zxM#t=42m57s

Again, I believe the Stars Changes talk starts at around 43:00.

Peace Out.

Peace out

There a podcast version out of curiosity?

EDIT: Nvm, realised the only part of relevance is 10 minutes long, sorry!

He's been with PokerStars for over a decade: has he ever voiced a serious disagreement with them, ever?

Really what he's saying is he agrees with pokerstars. Just not the way the information was released.

He claims to have done so. Also said that he would never breach his integrity as his integrity is not for sale. We are yet to read a Daniel Negreanu blog post about all of his thoughts.

Also, He uses a HUD. Not sure if people knew that. but in one of his twitch streams he was making reference to his stats on players.

Yeah + that he doesn't accept stars breaching contract with SNE players.

sketchy website. had to endtask to not download some **** from there.

Daniel wouldn't jeopardize his integrity by doing an interview on a site with malicious intentions.

Not really that surprising. He is well paid im sure not going to **** where he lives.

It amazes me everytime anybody takes DN seriously ?

He`s a well paid shill and nothing more or less

Meh, he's advocating for SNE's to retain their 2nd year benefits and believes in creating an atmosphere conducive for more rec players. Openly criticized the timing and rollout of the bad information. Insinuates that good changes are in the near future. Possibly doesn't fully understand/care about the impact of increased rake on the players, but is clearly not just circle jerking the Pokerstars team for his paycheck.

What do you want him to do? Blast stars and give them a horrible reputation, which will further discourage rec players from depositing. I think the one thing he realizes is that there has to be a nuanced approach to maximize the profitability of Amaya in the short and long term. Maximizing shareholder wealth is of utmost importance, but longevity is also key. While increased rake isn't good, neither is ruining the rep of the most powerful poker entity in the world.

What's disgusting is that they're marketing all of this as being good for the poker community and good for recreational players. No it's not. I'm a regular player on Stars, but not hardcore enough to be anywhere close to SNE. I look up to SNE because even if I don't benefit from their benefits now, the fact that there is something out there that I could potentially one day grasp, motivates me to grind harder. Soon there's going to be jack **** out there.

So yes, all of this helps Stars as a company. Whether the costs they're gonna cut balances out with the ****ty reputation they're giving themselves is yet to be seen. Although numerically, the company will increase its profits this way, taking into account the reputation might prove otherwise.

But NO, this is not benefiting any recreational players. And marketing it that way is manipulating and is treating recs like idiots who cannot figure out all of this out.

If you want to make the games better for recreational players, cap the maximum tables a player can sit at 4-6. There are probably less than 10 recreationals on whole PokerStars who would like to sit on more than 6 tables, so it doesn't hurt their interests; current rakeback decrease does.

i agree with daniel

Just watched the 10 minute part.

I don't think most people disagree with taking from regulars and giving to recreationals. The problem is, PokerStars takes from regulars and keeps it for themselves. Give the exact same amount of money (at least) that you take from regulars, back to recreationals somehow and i'm all good with this change

Only 10min of the content is relevant

Daniel still seems to have the impression Amaya have taken from the rich and given to the poor.

Lots of taking, not so much giving.

Honestly I think that Dnegs should just keep his mind off of online poker and stick to the live scene as far as his input. There are other real online poker players on Stars' payroll that understand online poker a lot better then him. I really think the best thing for players and him is just for him to leave online poker talk to the online players and stick to what he seems to understand and that's the live scene. He's just ****ting on his own name having opinions about online poker imo.

Daniel mentioned that new players are losing their deposits 40% faster than before and it's a problem.

As a solution for this, Amaya is driving all the action towards spin n go's which are ridicilously raked hyper turbos that offer a one in a billion chance of hitting the jackpot.

If that's the problem why don't they just give 30% flat rakeback across the board? Seems like raking your customers harder is the opposite of fixing that problem.....

As much as it hurts my bottom line, this is spot on.

If they actually cared about the playing environment for recreational players this would be an obvious change to make, especially now that they've publicly stated that mass multitabling regs are destroying the games. However, they value profit more than creating a sustainable ecosytem so it's pretty unlikely to happen.

The inference I take is 1) DNEGS feels that to change the SNE program this late in the year (because of its two year impact) is a breach of contract, in fact if not in law; and 2) PStars can run their business anyway they like as it is their business and if players do not like it they are equally free to do as they wish.

I can't disagree with either position.

don`t hope for him to help maintain the current vip system for you all. He is the guy who said that if he was in charge of stars he would give almost nothing back to its multitabling regs... So better be happy amaya has not completely followed his view.

I can't believe how many times I've seen this in the past few days. Captain Obvious must have a hundred 2+2 accounts.
Like really guys A business can do what they want?? Really?? WOW Thank you for adding such value to the forum. /sarc
Except you all completely miss the point. We strongly believe that PS is mistaken and this change is actually NOT in their best interest. We believe they are making a mistake that will hurt the site and online poker in general. We believe this is not in the best interest of PS and that is why they should reconsider. No **** they can do what they want.