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02-17-2016 , 03:35 PM
Don't worry, the software of many other sites is usable too, just it takes time to get accustomed to its quirks.
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02-17-2016 , 05:46 PM
Well done Shayam you muppet.

Not once but twice full tilt has closed its doors with you as room manager. You shouldn't have a job in this industry ever again. Even as a janitor you'd find a way to **** it up.
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02-17-2016 , 06:02 PM
rip ftp, it was fun while it lasted but it's been terminally ill more or less since the reboot
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02-17-2016 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MMD
Well done Shayam you muppet.

Not once but twice full tilt has closed its doors with you as room manager. You shouldn't have a job in this industry ever again. Even as a janitor you'd find a way to **** it up.
Your anger is very misplaced - Shyam has one of the best understandings of the poker industry of anyone I have met.
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02-17-2016 , 06:34 PM
There's the guy I was thinking about some posts back.
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02-17-2016 , 06:35 PM
No offence sparky but you were fully behind the change of direction that Shayam promoted despite being told by lots of regs that it was awful and would be the end of ftp.

I'm not angry. I've just always spoke my mind. I actually cashed out my roll months ago so it doesn't affect me. It's extremely annoying that we were never listened to. Countless surveys filled in telling them where they were going wrong. Promotions promised while the only promotions I've ever received were for the casino. Anger? No. Annoyance and frustration at the very top of my scale? Absolutely.
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02-17-2016 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
Your anger is very misplaced - Shyam has one of the best understandings of the poker industry of anyone I have met.
Maybe he wasn't the person in charge then? If he was he did do a chit job.

I don't believe Full Tilt was destined to fail upon re-launch. They failed to cut their own niche and ran their site as if they were competing against Stars. Taking a Stars customer doesn't help the owners. What they should have been doing is trying to take a customer from a competitor that was grabbing up the players who became disillusioned with Stars' "reg friendly site" (2012-2014). They failed to even attempt this until it was far too late.
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02-17-2016 , 06:40 PM
Keeping you informed



We're contacting you to let you know that from April the Full Tilt brand will run on the PokerStars platform. You'll still have The Deal, the Full Tilt avatars you love and, on top of that, you'll get to enjoy the many benefits of extra liquidity, bigger promotions and increased prize pools.

In short, you'll have instant access to the strongest gaming experience around.

Here's a bit more detail on what's happening:

Q: What do you need to do?
A: Nothing for now, just keep doing what you're doing. We're simply letting you know that we're working on the upgrade and it will be with you shortly.

Q: What will happen after the upgrade?
A: Once we make the change, when you log in you'll be prompted to update your software and account. With your new account, you'll have access to the Full Tilt, PokerStars, CasinoStars, BetStars and StarsDraft brands, as applicable in your jurisdiction, via one great platform.

If for any reason you don't want to upgrade to our new platform, you are free to withdraw your funds from your Full Tilt account at any time. For information on how to make a withdrawal click here.

Q: Where can you find more information?
A: You can read our FAQ page here - it contains all the latest information on the software upgrade.

Thank you,

Full Tilt



rip
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02-17-2016 , 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OPReport
I have independently confirmed from multiple sources.

http://www.onlinepokerreport.com/196...r-single-site/

Amaya will merge liquidity between PokerStars and Full Tilt in the spring of 2016, OPR has confirmed.

The Full Tilt brand itself will continue to be marketed.

PokerTube was first to report that significant change are underway at Full Tilt.

The casino product will also merge onto a single underlying platform.
GOODBYE FULLTILT
http://www.fulltilt.com/help/faq/sof...n_Announcement

^ very detailed FAQ ... but really it's hard to say what the final product will be like, possibly the best of both worlds. Or the worst of each.

I mean there was a REASON the cash games were noticeably softer on FullTilt during the last 12 months. And now with the pool merger I doubt that will continue to be the case

Sincerely, a less-than-optimistic microstakes semi-rec.







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Originally Posted by Bluffyou
I wonder if they will keep two different reward programs?
VIP program the same as Stars, starting in April.

FT will be keeping "The Deal" though -- but possibly only until the 170k+ jackpot is finally won by somebody. My guess (because the "Deal Coins" are going to be converted to StarsSomething afaik).

FT points will be converted 1 StarsCoin per 2.5 FTP I think. Lots of info in the link above so can't remember it all after reading it once just now.


Oh well, was fun back in the Golden Days when they had more than just Holdem and Omaha, when there was actually enough traffic to play primarILy headsup RAZZ sngs including hyperturbos (!) (and with plenty of fish joining regularly by *accident*!) :sigh: but those times are of course long gone. Been there, done that, got the T-Shirt (only 2 of them, didn't play many MTTs back then, sadly -- now they are collector's items I am sure).

Last edited by WhySoPartyous; 02-17-2016 at 07:02 PM. Reason: :'(
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02-17-2016 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by weaktightreg
With your new account, you'll have access to the Full Tilt, PokerStars, CasinoStars, BetStars and StarsDraft brands, as applicable in your jurisdiction, via one great platform.
The initial announcement at FTP's site didn't mention CasinoStars but did mention Duel. I guess it was a Freudian slip that they've decided to remove
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02-17-2016 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MMD
No offence sparky but you were fully behind the change of direction that Shayam promoted despite being told by lots of regs that it was awful and would be the end of ftp.

I'm not angry. I've just always spoke my mind. I actually cashed out my roll months ago so it doesn't affect me. It's extremely annoying that we were never listened to. Countless surveys filled in telling them where they were going wrong. Promotions promised while the only promotions I've ever received were for the casino. Anger? No. Annoyance and frustration at the very top of my scale? Absolutely.
We have a difference of opinion about the changes - post changes the games were better I don't think anyone who continued to play on the site would argue otherwise. I guess it was too little too late in the end but having a lobby that stops bumhunting/seat scripting etc is a good thing in my eyes.

I have no idea why you only get casino promos there are more poker promos by a good margin ( I think around double) perhaps you have your settings set to not receive them.
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02-17-2016 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Sect7G
Maybe he wasn't the person in charge then?
Shyam is the poker room manager - that doesn't mean he gets to do whatever he likes. He is just one cog in a big company with several tiers of people above him, like in any business he and all the other departments have constraints which they have to work within. that is why it is unfair to direct blame towards him personally, especially when he not only has good intentions but has always been knowledgeable and competent in my dealings with him.
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02-17-2016 , 10:02 PM
I wonder,do they bring the FT PLO 6cards to Poker stars ??it would be nice to see PLO 6cards on stars on top their PLO 5cards

R.I.P FTP
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02-17-2016 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.DjiSamSoe
I wonder,do they bring the FT PLO 6cards to Poker stars ??it would be nice to see PLO 6cards on stars on top their PLO 5cards
+1 was the best thing on FTP, after railing high stakes games.
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02-17-2016 , 10:20 PM
+ 10-game please
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02-17-2016 , 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SootedPowa
+1 was the best thing on FTP, after railing high stakes games.
Full house over full house all the time, zzzz. 5-card seems more balanced to me.
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02-17-2016 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
Shyam is the poker room manager - that doesn't mean he gets to do whatever he likes. He is just one cog in a big company with several tiers of people above him, like in any business he and all the other departments have constraints which they have to work within. that is why it is unfair to direct blame towards him personally, especially when he not only has good intentions but has always been knowledgeable and competent in my dealings with him.
so, who actually makes the decisions?
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02-18-2016 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberShark93
so, who actually makes the decisions?
Ashkenazi's malfunctioning Dream Machine just spits out random gibberish. Amaya needs a new flux capacitor imo.
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02-18-2016 , 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
We have a difference of opinion about the changes - post changes the games were better I don't think anyone who continued to play on the site would argue otherwise. I guess it was too little too late in the end but having a lobby that stops bumhunting/seat scripting etc is a good thing in my eyes.

I have no idea why you only get casino promos there are more poker promos by a good margin ( I think around double) perhaps you have your settings set to not receive them.
Post changes the games many people played stopped running entirely. Don't patronize people and act like you speak for everyone. The sites traffic declined substantially post changes relative to its competition. Recreational players left in droves. The games were not better for many people. Facts are facts. Maybe in your little niche they were, but for many, the changes were awful for traffic and the playing experience.
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02-18-2016 , 04:44 AM
It was pretty lame when they made the transfers back and forth between FTP and Stars difficult. Seemed like they were trying to force you just to deposit on FTP instead (and therefore pay the 2.5% conversion rip)
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02-18-2016 , 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sparky999
We have a difference of opinion about the changes - post changes the games were better I don't think anyone who continued to play on the site would argue otherwise. I guess it was too little too late in the end but having a lobby that stops bumhunting/seat scripting etc is a good thing in my eyes.
Not many here would disagree with that - except you don't need to change the lobby to accomplish those things. Changes at Full Tilt threw out the baby with the bathwater. There are much simpler ways to reduce bumhunting/camping/seat scripting that have been raised in thread after thread on 2p2 yet the geniuses running these sites continue to ignore them and in Full Tilt's case went for the nuclear option instead.

And it doesn't really matter what a great "understanding of the industry" anyone involved had, that's merely a starting point. You needed a management team of real vision and innovation in the current climate. They failed miserably.
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02-18-2016 , 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by insidemanpoker
Post changes the games many people played stopped running entirely. Don't patronize people and act like you speak for everyone. The sites traffic declined substantially post changes relative to its competition. Recreational players left in droves. The games were not better for many people. Facts are facts. Maybe in your little niche they were, but for many, the changes were awful for traffic and the playing experience.
Player traffic has actually been pretty steady post changes, there was the initial expected drop immediately after changes and then it has been pretty steady since.

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02-18-2016 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberShark93
so, who actually makes the decisions?
Depends on the decision - I don't think I could speak in more detail about that with out disclosing non-public company information though.
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02-18-2016 , 07:42 AM
games were redic good at ssnl on ftp due to these changes. Surprised so many regs left. Would often get at least 2 fish per table with many times playing 2-4 handed with one fish/whale. And if you just add a couple of stars it was worthwhile.

i havent had 4 fish on one table in like forvers on stars. happened couple of times on ftp
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02-18-2016 , 09:47 AM
Are they going to keep the Ftp software? I think they will be but merging the pool only.

I do prefer the ftp software, but the games have all but dried up.
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