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Can we discuss Cereus specifically? Can we discuss Cereus specifically?

04-20-2011 , 09:53 PM
Can someone who plays on UB verify that?
04-20-2011 , 09:58 PM
US players playing on UB right now...

I can confirm in donkament play on UB..
04-20-2011 , 10:16 PM
US players can still play on AP/UB last time I looked since I have some dough on there still (few days ago I played a 45man turbo) They just aren't allowing deposits and withdrawls right now as for what I have heard. Technically there just keeping all the money on the site that US players have "allowing them to still play" if they have money on there it seems like, which just generates rake for them. Typical UB bs.

Last edited by Turb0Licious; 04-20-2011 at 10:16 PM. Reason: FWIW I play on AP.
04-20-2011 , 10:24 PM
Is AP and UB under different management? I know they're on the same network but is something like UB paying out and AP not doing so possible?
04-20-2011 , 10:47 PM
I'm a US player playing on UB as I type this playing with a bunch of other US Players. Still obviously cannot cash out.
04-20-2011 , 10:56 PM
From the list of seized bank accounts i can't recognize any from cereus (maybe the one without the name from phillapines) so i'm wondering if they aren't cooperating with doj cause there's not much in risk, they'll just keep running business as usual and point the middle finger to the doj . If not i'm afraid the chances to get our money back are really low.
04-20-2011 , 10:59 PM
ask him about scott tom being owner still
04-20-2011 , 11:02 PM
yeah us players can still play.
04-20-2011 , 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jman217
Is AP and UB under different management? I know they're on the same network but is something like UB paying out and AP not doing so possible?
Both Absolute Poker and UB brands are owned by Blanca Games Inc., a company incorporated in Antigua and Barbuda, and both sites are licensed by the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.

I think whatever happens to UB players is going to happen to AP ones too.
04-20-2011 , 11:19 PM
sounds like sebok is asking US players to not play, since AP doesn't have the code in place to prevent US players from playing.
04-20-2011 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mathemagician54
sounds like sebok is asking US players to not play, since AP doesn't have the code in place to prevent US players from playing.
Pretty sure AP could keep US players from playing. They blocked Kentucky players when it was briefly illegal there in late 2008 early 2009. It would be fairly trivial to block real money games for US players.
04-20-2011 , 11:24 PM
i looked up antigua online gaming laws and it basically says if you pay the max tax of 50K a month to antigua they are not interested in your books. not good.
04-20-2011 , 11:25 PM
Dunno know if this means much but my withdrawal from friday has just gone from requsted to authorized.
04-20-2011 , 11:29 PM
Good news. Where you at?
04-20-2011 , 11:33 PM
my withdrawel request appears to have been reset - i recieved another email today saying my withdrawel request has been received even though it was first requested over a week ago now

still no payout though (uk)
04-20-2011 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by elitejaso
Dunno know if this means much but my withdrawal from friday has just gone from requsted to authorized.
skipped pending?? or requested = pending?? where you live?
04-20-2011 , 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rbracco
Pretty sure AP could keep US players from playing. They blocked Kentucky players when it was briefly illegal there in late 2008 early 2009. It would be fairly trivial to block real money games for US players.
This. It's not a big coding project to add ability to block players based on their country.

Even if they did not have it before (and others in this thread have reported already that they did block players previusly based on their state) they should have had enough time to add necessary code since Monday.

"Question: Wait, did Joe say that US players should not be playing on UB right now?
Joe Sebok: Correct. US players do NOT play on UB."

Sounds like "we are telling you not to play but if you choose to - that's your own decision and we don't mind the rake anyway"

Last edited by knef; 04-20-2011 at 11:38 PM. Reason: grammar
04-20-2011 , 11:44 PM
Playing on a micro table. Someone else in the chat said his buddy logged in from US and was no longer able to play real money tables.
04-20-2011 , 11:44 PM
Code:
skipped pending?? or requested = pending?? where you live?
Its been requested for the last 5 days checked just then and it has been changed to authorized. Also im from Australia.
Generally from my experience over the years, i've had the mony in my acount shortly after its been authorized but will c i guess.

They have to start paying out soon or they're done, only got approx half the traffic atm
04-20-2011 , 11:49 PM
in relation to SEBOK :
VIP: Thanks for the info XXX ; I just checked on this matter and have confirmed that US players can still play with us. Apparently Sebok was miss informed; but besides that, everything remains the same
VIP: Hopefully, we will be coming up with an official statement real soon
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again, US players can still play.. confused why SEBOK would say that ?
04-20-2011 , 11:51 PM
they will end up giving DoJ the finger, wipe their asses with the indictments, and keep business as usual once they get new payment processors.

Great. So pretty much this means US players on UB will have no way of getting paid. What good is a check from them if banks won't take them?
04-20-2011 , 11:55 PM
Could someone tell me how to increase the number of posts I view per page?
04-20-2011 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jman217
Could someone tell me how to increase the number of posts I view per page?
My 2+2 (top left) -> edit options (5th one down) -> scroll down to display options(third section)-> Number of Posts to Show Per Page
04-20-2011 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by the5and10
they will end up giving DoJ the finger, wipe their asses with the indictments, and keep business as usual once they get new payment processors.
I agree this is the most likely scenario, especially now that FT and PS are out of the US market.

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Great. So pretty much this means US players on UB will have no way of getting paid. What good is a check from them if banks won't take them?
This I do not agree with. Obviously their #1 priority at this point is getting a working processor to facilitate payments and withdrawals. I have no doubt they will be able to find somebody to handle this. There's simply too much money to be had.

If they are unable to find a processor for some reason, they can always fall back into the DOJ deal. Or they can continue doing their thing until the trial is over, etc etc.

It's a pretty good move from FT/PS to jump out of the market at this point and let UB/AP deal with the legality, knowing that if they win, they can jump back in.

Gonna be interesting for sure.
04-20-2011 , 11:59 PM
Yea logged into AP right now, since I have a balance still (sadly, too much that I want on there) anyways that messaged popped up for me (I'm sure everyone has seen it) but it says they are suspending real money games to us based players, blah blah same message tilt and stars put out. However i go to reg for a game to see if i could, and I could. So apparently they are letting US players still play if the had a prior balance before Black Friday, but I'm hearing deposits and withdrawls aren't going through.

So basically US players still playing on AP right now, are either A) trying to build up rolls to hopefully eventaully cash out, or B) We are just contributing to rake for no reason, and risking losing money in our accounts, that money we can't see coming to us. Pretty beat and low by AP if you ask me.

      
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