interesting tangent: DOJ indictment wording gives evidence to those who claim UB/AP ownership is not the same.

Right or wrong, they probably don't know anything about the scandal.

Not sure about that one buddy. Seems at best ambiguous and at worst, Bickley seems involved on the money end maybe through 2011 here.

Euro donk
I cashed out half BR on 15th and the rest on 16th to Neteller. Both are pending.

I think you have it wrong on the $500 cap or you just worded it wrong. There is no cap on the pot, it is a cap per bet size. The largest bet you can make is $500 and if you bet $500, your opponent can raise you another $500. They do have the 4bet cap too though so max pot heads up would be $2000 per street. I sometimes make the trip to Everette to play and the games there are extremely soft even at the $5/$10NL table which is just a players betting $500 at a time.
Also as far as tipping goes (coming from a former dealer) it's completely up to your discretion. I never tip on smaller pots. It may be cheap in some players eyes but when you're doing this for a living, it's hard to justify tipping $1 on every $10 pot you win when there are lots of people that over tip. I don't know what stakes you play online, but with how soft the live game is, I would make the trip over trusting my roll with Cereus.
When the State says all online play is to be banned and the site says, "no we'll continue to let them play." How safe do you feel leaving your roll there?

As an EU mac-client user I could not log in or anything until I just discovered their new homepage ubpoker.eu. There I downloaded the new mac-client which worked. I then opened the cashier-link and requested a withdrawal... I'll tell you as soon as the money is in my account...

Go get em Cereus. I look forward to taking avail of the Hawala network at my local mosque for future transactions with Cereus Poker.

(Still: EU-user)

So I just tried to cash out - the sum is now "pending". The cashier email on their cashier-website is:

cashier@ub.net

In b4 Scott Tom's filthy associates party all day using 1/10th of secretly siphoned off, DOJ untraced, Cereus customers bankroll funds while not giving a **** while every other poor "the games are soft" sucker frets and curses their "bad luck" that the publically exposed, "Kruger Industrial Smoothing" of the gambling world blatantly stole their funds from under their noses

Why on earth are you guys so focused on continuing to give a corrupt company money?

I dont understand all the posts on here that are I hope UB keeps going so us Americans have somewhere to play, surely Cake/Merge etc have to be better options than UB/AP. They haven't had various superuser/collusion scandals and arent indited by the Fed yet, any maybe never.

If I was an American and looking to continue playing online I know where I wouldn't be going.

Also do you think its just a coincidence that Hellmuth jumped ship just few months ago? Got wind of something maybe?

Post erased. WU shows up as option to cashout from cashier, but popup that says cashouts still suspended popped up when I tried to click it. Sorry for anybody who saw this in the couple minutes it was up.

Blah..I have my entire net worth practically on ap as sad as that sounds. I guess in some way I can't complain cause I deposited on this site but it was the only one I could put money on. Hope somehow this works out and no one gets hurt too badly. Especially the people with real serious money on there. I'm just a broke kid myself but is still a decent amount of change I got riding on this.

Lol, so much for the 'very intelligent' multi-table poker players on here when consider playing on UB/AP...

[QUOTE=TFMonty;26116262]Why on earth are you guys so focused on continuing to give a corrupt company money?

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Don't play on AP/UB...but you honestly think Stars and FTP are any better now? All corrupt. Period.

How you like the big two now?

has someone recieved any funds from UB since Friday ?

Just now... what they say and what they are doing is not necessarily the same thing.

General Support: Thank you for contacting our Support Department. My name is Carrie. How may I help you?
DEALACE1: Carrie, are cashouts to Canadians being processed at this time?
General Support: Yes, they are being processed
General Support: Its only with US that we are having problems
DEALACE1: So all things go in terms of the room continuing
General Support: Correct
DEALACE1: send my best to Mr. Scott Toms
General Support: My pleasure
General Support: Is there anything else that I can help you with today?
General Support: Thank you

This!? Has a single non-u.s. based received anything yet?

I am currently in U.S. and my WU authorize Friday evening, and is still pending. Support says they have no idea when it will be processed...

didn't receive anything since friday (europe)

No one got their money. They are not processed cause There would be at least one person here on 2+2 who would get the money. I phoned them today morning they told me they will process my cashout they just need 24-48 hours more and everything will go smoothly. The problem is that no one got anything so It just looks that they try to buy some time. I doubt they have any clue what is going on/if they have funds to cover it.

Are you sure about this? I read on Compatible Poker the other day that AP/UB pulled out of WA state. It said Bodog was the only major site left for WA residents.
http://www.compatiblepoker.com/us-po...sapokerupdates
Look under March 5, 2011.

Please, anyone who receives money from UB via any method for any sum, post about it !

Maybe they have decided to just say **** it, this is the way we roll.

Kinda annoyed with al the Euros adding to the problem by trying to grab their entire bankrolls..
Honestly if and when UB starts doin payouts.. Ill take the money I needed before this mess hit..
And prob be a lil smarter about how much I leave on the site.

I heard that they had stopped accepting new Washington accounts but they didn't prevent current account from continuing to play.

"Euros", and everyone else, are customers of the site, and should be able to withdrawal their money from the site whenever they wish to with no restrictions. Unless they use the site as a bank or cheat, etc.

I understand that. And I would love to have my money safe and secure, But if everyone pulls their money at the same time, Im pretty sure the site will be done. So I suppose maybe they are just trying to be smart about it and set up payments that people will get. Along with ways to get money on the site as well.
If I were them, I wouldn't do any payments for the next two weeks even if i could, and then slowly allow withdrawls to happen.
I'm just saying that the panic of everyone about their money is probably worse for us trying to get our money then whatever the DOJ did.