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Old 01-04-2017, 10:02 AM   #1
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Brains vs. AI poker rematch coming to Rivers Casino

Artificially intelligent, poker-playing software developed at Carnegie Mellon University will challenge some of the game's best human players to a rematch.

http://triblive.com/local/allegheny/...puter-sandholm
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:24 AM   #2
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$200K to the winner side is pretty big. Is Carnegie Mellon putting up money on this or where is it coming from?
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:31 AM   #3
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how many buyins/big blinds must either side be positive after 120k hands for the results to be statistically significant?

i know this was a point of disagreement during the last challenge between polk and sandholm
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Old 01-04-2017, 10:42 AM   #4
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The question is will it be streamed?
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:02 AM   #5
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Looking to bet on the AI, want 5-1 odds, my 2k to your 10k
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:07 AM   #6
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Les will be joined by Dong Kim, Daniel McAuley and Jimmy Chou for Brains
Who are Daniel McAuley and Jimmy Chou? Haven't heard of them.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:10 AM   #7
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Re: Brains vs. AI poker rematch coming to Rivers Casino

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Artificially intelligent, poker-playing software developed at Carnegie Mellon University will challenge some of the game's best human players to a rematch.

http://triblive.com/local/allegheny/...puter-sandholm
I will bet on another "statistical tie" because no matter how badly the AI loses that is what the researchers will call it.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:11 AM   #8
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Who are Daniel McAuley and Jimmy Chou? Haven't heard of them.
Considering that Les was the only human that lost money last time...

If this is a battle between man vs machine I want only the top 4 representing humanity. This is like the US sending only college basketball players to the Olympics -- not our best and if they lose what does it really prove for the researchers about their program?

Doug Polk, chime in!

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Old 01-04-2017, 11:18 AM   #9
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Daniel McAuley is dougiedan
Jimmy Chou I think is fortheswarmm?

correct if wrong
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:10 PM   #10
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:14 PM   #11
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Daniel McAuley is dougiedan
Jimmy Chou I think is fortheswarmm?

correct if wrong
Correct
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:33 PM   #12
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wonder if chad power is a participant in this. hes from pittsburgh.
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:53 PM   #13
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wonder if chad power is a participant in this. hes from pittsburgh.
That would be amazing.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:20 PM   #14
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Looking to bet on the AI, want 5-1 odds, my 2k to your 10k
Lol good luck finding someone to lay 5-1
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:25 PM   #15
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Escrow? I'm in.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:27 PM   #16
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Escrow? I'm in.
Yeah, pick someone known and we can do it
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:33 PM   #17
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Re: Brains vs. AI poker rematch coming to Rivers Casino

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Considering that Les was the only human that lost money last time...

If this is a battle between man vs machine I want only the top 4 representing humanity. This is like the US sending only college basketball players to the Olympics -- not our best and if they lose what does it really prove for the researchers about their program?

Doug Polk, chime in!
Personally I think it would be really dumb for humanity's best to join in right now, esp for only $200k. If the best of the best lose this round, that's it and there's no recourse.

If the humans lose and I were Doug, I'd offer to put together an all star squad and request something like $250k if lose $1m if win on an ultimate final showdown.

All that said, its not like its scrub nubs playing. The line up they have there is super duper solid.
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Old 01-04-2017, 01:55 PM   #18
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That was fast 😀 - gl fellas
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:18 PM   #19
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Personally I think it would be really dumb for humanity's best to join in right now, esp for only $200k. If the best of the best lose this round, that's it and there's no recourse.

If the humans lose and I were Doug, I'd offer to put together an all star squad and request something like $250k if lose $1m if win on an ultimate final showdown.

All that said, its not like its scrub nubs playing. The line up they have there is super duper solid.
I would be interested in doing something like this with my team a year from now at Seminole HR, regardless of the outcome of this competition.

My prediction is that the humans will win, if for no reason other than this recent paper that shows that the exploitability of the best programs is significantly higher than always folding.

That said, I don't want to steal the thunder from this event, and am very excited to see it unfold.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:41 PM   #20
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Doug Polk too busy making UTube videos to save us from the robots.
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Old 01-04-2017, 02:55 PM   #21
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Give the people what they want. Send in Mike Dentale.
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Old 01-04-2017, 03:03 PM   #22
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I would be interested in doing something like this with my team a year from now at Seminole HR, regardless of the outcome of this competition.

My prediction is that the humans will win, if for no reason other than this recent paper that shows that the exploitability of the best programs is significantly higher than always folding.

That said, I don't want to steal the thunder from this event, and am very excited to see it unfold.
Sam are you not involved this time?
Link to CMU article https://www.cs.cmu.edu/news/upping-a...intelligence-0
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Old 01-04-2017, 04:50 PM   #23
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Last time claudico lost 9bb right? While doing alot of silly stuff and donating stacks every once in a while due to algorhytm errors.

Inb4 this time its breakeven or even winning.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:17 PM   #24
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Give the people what they want. Send in Mike Dentale.
He won't be able to throw the computer on tilt.
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Old 01-04-2017, 07:24 PM   #25
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I'm sure he'd refuse to play since he wouldn't be able to randomly fold his BB whenever he wanted to.
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